what am i doing wrong?

[mushaboom]

picture two is of two clones that i took two days ago. they were fine until today and then they just keeled over. is it pointless to keep them or could they possibly spring back?
picture 3 is just a general picture of the plant im worried about
picture 4 is a closeup of the spots
picture 5 is a picture of the new growth
picture 6 is weli dont k now what that is but it looks messed up doesnt it? i think it might just be an old leaf though.

this plant is a couple months old clone in a rockwool cube under two 24" t5's. it was in a soilless mixture that i made until yesterday when i got the bright idea to scoop out as much free soil as i could with fox farm light warrior. hopefuly it works. i have no idea what could be going on. every once in a while ill feed her any of the following: pure blend pro grow, liquid karma, cal mag plus, hydroguard, sweet. if theres any more information i could add here let me know. i have to get rid of this problem!

mushaboom Reviewed by mushaboom on 03-12-2008. what am i doing wrong? picture two is of two clones that i took two days ago. they were fine until today and then they just keeled over. is it pointless to keep them or could they possibly spring back? picture 3 is just a general picture of the plant im worried about picture 4 is a closeup of the spots picture 5 is a picture of the new growth picture 6 is weli dont k now what that is but it looks messed up doesnt it? i think it might just be an old leaf though. this plant is a couple months old clone in a Rating: 5

[carinia]

Ouch brah.
Id say your clones are gone, and your plant looks like it might be over fertalized. When and how much are you giving those nutes? And how old is this plant and what kind of pot is it in? Can you fill out the problem section sticky and answer those questions as best as you can, that should help!

[Mr. Clandestine]

I'm not sure what to say about your clones, as I have no experience with rockwool. I do all my cloning in Jiffy pellets, and pH problems can be an issue in both. Are you keeping them in a humidity dome? If they're fresh, you want to keep the humidity very high for at least the first week. Also, cutting the larger leaves in half really helps to cut down on transpiration, and seems to help them retain their turgidity.

As for the rest, fill out the Troubleshooting form and post your conditions. You'll be able to get more tailored answers that way.

Take care. :jointsmile:

[mushaboom]

indoor fox farms light warrior with nothing added. i dont know the soil pH but i can check the run off later if you guys think it looks like a pH thing. i use tap water with a pH of about 6.8 on average. the plant is a 2-3 month old clone in a 5 gallon pot. it is a couple inches away from 2 24' t5's. ive probably only fed the plant 3-4 times ever with botanicare nutrients. the temperature stays at about 78 and the humidity is around 45%. a small fan is providing plenty of ventilation.

[ojitos1985]

i had the problem in the 4 picture, was the soil lacked of nutrients, may be i am wrong, could be over fertilized too...

[mushaboom]

i dont think the soil ever lacked nutrients because its always had fresh soil, and im pretty sure i never overfertilized. i forgot to mention i had a spider mite problem up until a couple weeks ago. i bought a pest strip and theyre all gone now. this plant wasnt really affected too much by the mites but there were a couple on it. i also forget to mention i did spray the whole plant with soap in order to help get rid of mites and i thinking maybe the plant got burned in a few spots because of that. still, i don thtink that would have caused this much of a reaction.

[Weedhound]

Ouch.....soil ph first....bet you fifty to one its off. Are you phing your water and nutes before you add them to the soil?

There could be many more problems....but your (suspected) abnormal ph is most likely causing the worst of your problems.

[Weedhound]

Revised: The Complete Guide To Sick Plants,pH and Pest Troubles - PlanetGanja.com

This is a great troubleshooting guide....I'm anything but a soil pro. Good luck.

[mushaboom]

thanks im looking into that link right now

[mushaboom]

ok im pretty sure its pH. i just checked the pH of my tap water and its about 7.5 id say which is way too high. with my nutrients in the pH goes to about 6.5. in my soil... i have no idea what the pH in there is. i tested some run off water and the pH came out a little bit above 7. hopefully my plant springs back.