This should have been the only sign I needed....... go on over to Craigs List, type in 420, hydro, clone, lights & look at the endless postings of people selling stuff they used once for pennies on the dollar. I swear to you, I bought mine used and the guy said he would wait till I grow the money I owe him:clap:

I only did it because I figure, 0% financing for life, no payments if nothing grows, but he took the deal so what could I do?