TEST LAUNCH-Operation Redwood Tree

[allrollsin21]

This is a rocking log WH. Lots of little lessons within these pages. It looks like you can save the stalks when you harvest and use it for fire wood next season!!
Thanks for sharing...now i must continue to read...

[GreenDestiny]

I like that WW in hydro. Sucks that it didn't bulk up like you expected... did the mother you cloned it from yield a lot?

[Weedhound]

Wow, a whole bunch of people stopped by! Hi everyone and thanks for reading. :jointsmile:

Well here's the latest scoop. Fang is finishing.....she stopped drinking a gallon a day and quit using her nutes so we've put her on straight water.

We've come to the conclusion that we simply didn't give her enough nutes and I wasn't paying enough attention to catch it earlier. While we took her to the top of my nute schedule (1350ppm) which has always done fine before we are thinking that with the new net pots we need to go HIGHER nute wise......there's no buildup in the medium to burn the roots (this is simply PONTIFICATING at this point). But when I finally DID get around to paying better attention to the plants I discovered that she was taking 1300 nutes and eating them down to 1100....daily...(and include a FRESH GALLON OF 1300 nutes added daily as well in that calculation) she needed MORE than we were giving is what I'm thinking. We're going to trying up to 1500-1600 this next grow (we have another Brainstorm about 3 weeks old and this time check ppms daily to see if we need to adjust things better with the new equipment. The only real conclusion I've come to here is that she needed more nutes....most likely due to the net pots and lack of fert buildup because everything else she had double of.....all the way through including space AND lighting.

We would LOVE everone's else's PONTIFICATIONS on this as well as it HAS left us scratching our heads a bit. The plant is big, beautiful and perfectly healthy......just not a very good yield. Whattup with that?

Thoughts everyone??

[GreenDestiny]

We would LOVE everone's else's PONTIFICATIONS on this as well as it HAS left us scratching our heads a bit. The plant is big, beautiful and perfectly healthy......just not a very good yield. Whattup with that?

Thoughts everyone??

Yeah sounds like the water/nute usage would be perfect if you bumped it up to around 1600ppm. And if you're using clones from the same mother next time and still no big yield then maybe time to get another mother?

[MVP]

My opinion: You should take them up to 1600-1700, checking PPM and PH religiously 2x daily. Change nutes weekly, flushing for 24 hours each time. Say 10 hail mary's for each oz you desire to achieve, do a rain dance, and send a $250 check each week to MVP....

:jointsmile:

MVP

[SnSstealth]

what he said....
WT

[Weedhound]

Well its too late for Fang but whenever I've gone above 1400 in the past I've gotten burning.....no matter what strain I'm growing which is why I didn't try this time. All my better plants (including my two top producers) were given no more than 1350 in nutes at any point during the grows and anytiime I tried to raise that they would burn. I wonder now if that is due to the fert build up in my medium which MAY BE why I need to use higher numbers these days. Hmmmmm........

MVP....can I just send straight monopoly money....??

[Weedhound]

I like that WW in hydro. Sucks that it didn't bulk up like you expected... did the mother you cloned it from yield a lot?

GD this statement really is what got me to thinking.....our WW mom was only a so so yielder.....I was unfamiliar with what a light feeder the WW was and so went pretty light on the nutes with her (about 700-800 through most of bloom) and she came out nice and healthy.....but without the huge yield we expected as well.

Now with these two pics: The mom is the big one in the huge bucket but she only yielded about 5 and 1/2 oz......pretty UNIMPRESSIVE for a plant that size. Her CLONE HOWEVER.....also in hydro etc we upped the nutes to the very edge of nuteburn (in the case of a WW that turned out to be approx 1000ppm) and she tossed out buds triple in size to her mother with a final yield of 3 and 1/2 oz on a plant ONE THIRD THE SIZE!! So it HAS TO BE the nutes!! (we hope....!!!!.) Interesting that a ppm of 200-ish can make such a difference in yield at finish.

HMMMMMMMMMMM :wtf:

Thoughts all??

[SnSstealth]

thoughts all?........


hmmm.....might I look into buckets?:rastasmoke:
WT

[MVP]

Question for you Hound: What strain are you gonna use for your next attempt for the LB grow? IMO genetics are the key.

Personally, I just finished the Strawberry Cough and Grand Daddy Purple and if I were trying to grow an elbow, I would choose different strains. I love the results from both but they are not typically big yielders.

I suggest a known producer that is an aggressive feeder... in my experience it would be Black Domina or the new Black Kush beans (Black Domina x Master Kush) I picked up a while back. BTW, I just cracked some Big Bud beans to see how much I can yield when I set up my new digital 600 HPS next month...