TEST LAUNCH-Operation Redwood Tree

[Rock.Steady]

i cant even make a legitimate comment on that post from Rhiz, just mind boggling.
i'll rip 2 or 3 more and read it again before bed

[Weedhound]

Got some big, tall ones there Rock!! This ASH of ours is an EXTREMELY light feeder so I'm not surprised if you went over with it.....these and other similar experiments are what we are all about these days so all input welcome! :thumbsup:

Anybody who understood what Rhizome said please raise your hand. I personally got about 1/3 but I've learned that if I go off and study stuff (which I will since he suggested somewhere to look) and then come back within a month or two it usually becomes quite clear.

[GreenLeaf420]

Hey WH Threads going good!!!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

All of these experiments have been done by the floriculture industry.

Have a look @ the Umich Ag extension archives- Also Umass, Texas A&M, U Georgia, U Florida.

Putting flower weight on an annual is pretty much putting flower weight on an annual, whatever it may be. Pref nute ratios will vary a little bit ( think commercial floriculture, because fruit formation is a whole differant story), but moisture/media/air ratios over EC are pretty basic. Ain't that differant from the cut flower trade at all.

That being said, it's about all done drip to waste at an EC varied to normalize h20/ion uptake ratios- many small feedings at highest strength possible to maintain proper EC on the waste side of the media, with at least 10% overwatering. Feed nute EC is adjusted ( often realtime) to provide consistant nute uptake regardless of plant transpiration volume, at a rate determined by available light.

In other words, nutrient ion total weight being sucked up the stalk is the same weight for every photon ( in the appropriate spectra) utilized, regardless of the total amount of water transpired.

Lots of small volume applications, EC variable.

Wow- sorry about the tangent- Space Queen makes me, well, spacy...

Oh, and you could probabley get the grant to do the work in a differant annual- Big market for polyhouse shiso in some regions, but it's feed twitchy.

WOW you are always playing the Conspiracy Theory Guy.... Why is that? Earb is a annual but what are you going to weight out w/ studies on other annualls? What similarities are there between begonias, impatiens, snapdragons,calendula, cornflower, foxglove, larkspur, pansy, sweet alyssum, stocks, viola and many many others to Marijunana.... Were they wet annuals or dried out during testing @ TA&M and others you stated...? The feed schedule will have many diffrent variables on the flowers that can not be compaired to by what ever studies there may be out there.. The only annual studies that will show Marijuana tendencys IMO would be Marijuana becuase of the way it is cured out and smoked.....

Keep That IDEA going Opie:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[GreenLeaf420]

Hey Hound et al,

I'm looking into some T5's... what do you recommend? The 2 ft unit is the only one that fits my area, so I'm considering the New Wave 4 bulb or 8 bulb running cool/6500k Agrosun tubes.

Any comments/advice would be helpful...

MVP :jointsmile:

I have that light it is Amazing!!!! I can not believe how close the nodes grow together in Veg absolutely Amazing!!! Worth every penny... I can keep 30+ clones or 15 small to med plants...

[rhizome]

[B] The only annual studies that will show Marijuana tendencys IMO would be Marijuana becuase of the way it is cured out and smoked.....

Umm...

Let's posit that dry weight is a percentage of wet weight. Can we agree on that?

Basic algebra will show that an increase in wet weight will therefore increase dry weight.

Nothing special about cannabis as a cultivar- it's just another annual.

[Weedhound]

So Rhizome you are saying that mj bud is more like a "flowering" plant then a plant "bearing fruit?" Interesting.........HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

With that in mind......do both kinds of plants use carbs (like Sweet or something) approximately the same rate? In other words.....would you give your apple tree the same amount of Sweet to bloom with as your prize roses?

[GreenLeaf420]

Wow!!!!

OK prove your theory... How are all annuals alike when it comes to Dried out Dank Weed?

When you read your studies from Colleges is Cannabis mentioned... Just wondering if they took it into consideration during their study.. Do all annuals react and accept the same feeding schedule? I can answer that NO you see it in different strains the ability to eat and not eat. There are so many variables to many to list but you really have your heart set on the Schools have already done the work...

SO prove It!!!

Considering maybe the studies can be correct and the same can occur w/ cannabis. I would still rather see the studies performed w/ the actual plants to see the true Effects... Then to compare a plant in the same species it is to vague of a Conclusion...

Cat's and Lions are in the same family as your home pets... There are some similarities between the two but if they want to know about African Lions do they do a study on house held Cats?

There maybe similarities but until you study that of choice there are to many variables to come up w/ a complete and accurate Conclusion... To what ever hypothesis you may have.

[rhizome]

Buddy, I'm not going to get into this here- cause I don't want mess up Weedy's house.

But I'll tell you what- we can have a debate thread, in which I will present my arguments that

a.) Cannabis is an annual flowering plant, and has many more characteristics common to the class than characteristics uncommon.

b.) Decades of research involving million dollar budgets has been done across a wide range of annual flowering plants, which have more characteristics common to the class than characteristics uncommon.

c.) There is no need to re-invent the wheel. Wheels come in many differant flavors, but they continue have more characteristics common to the class than characteristics uncommon.

I look forward to your argument that cannabis has no metabolic similarities to other annual flowering plants.

Right after I finish admiring the oil glands on the surface of this lavender. Lovely, really...

[Rock.Steady]

GL, dude u r way to hung up on having a Cannabis trial in published reports. Forget it, not happenin, so, stop being silly.
facts are as pointed out. this is an annual. these are not fruits we're harvestin, its flowers.
flowers also get harvested, dried and sold for a pretty penny as professional dried flower arrangements.
i believe you can see how the theory now may coincide with the wondrous nobel herb.
just as some exotic hybrid oriental flowers would be intentionally grown only to harvest and dry, with the most desirable of outcomes planned for.
Conversely, you can apply those same priciples of horticulture to that of the nobel herb. Why you will ask? simple. We too are attempting to growth the healthiest, fattest, most structurally dense-yet airy, flowers, SO WE CAN DRY THEM, then enjoy as such.

Rhizome, not that he needs defending, has always provided, top shelf, college Master/Professor level info, in the world of horticulture and more specifically, this particular plant we are all a fan of.
Don't be so outwardly challenging, we dont have anything to prove here, we're here to help one another. now blaze up, sit back, n relax dude.

[rhizome]

Actually loads of em- referred to as hemp. Flower weight, alas, is not measured- just seed weight. In an open pollination scenario, there's gonna be an essentially fixed ratio of seed to flower weight, but no perfect mirror. Ya gotta think about it a little.


Also a food and fiber crop- loads of data, but getting it as tall as possible and then ripping and threshing before the flowers too sticky to mechanically process is maybe not our goal. :wtf: