Help with a VERY bad trip

[RxBanditVCG3]

Hey, I had not smoked in about a month, and smoked with some of my friends last night. I got really messed up, probably because 1: I hadn't smoked in 3 weeks. 2: It was out of a zong, and I took 1 huge hit, then hours later took 2 more huge hits. and 3: It is the best stuff I've ever smoked. as the night went on, I felt/thought I was trapped in my own world. I thought the only way out was to either throw up or kill myself. I did not know what reality was, where we came from, why we are here. it was disturbing to me, everything was looping, and there was no way out other than death. I wanted to call 911, or do something to help me from hurting myself or someone else. my friends kept me calm, and mostly from doing anything stupid. I ended up throwing up and sleeping. I woke up hours later, ate some food, and fell back asleep. when I woke up today, I was still really confused as to what reality is. I wasn't as bad as the night before, looking out the window really helped. what started the bad trip was listening to some "dark" music, it was pulling me down it felt like. what I'm getting at is this: should I smoke again? I NEVER want to trip like that, I'm still a little confused. I do take lexapro for anxiety/mild depression, and had not slept much at all the 2 days before I smoked. Any advice of how I can keep this from ever happening again? also, side note, my friends are all getting shrooms, would it be a bad idea for me to try that out? I've never done it before and am really curious... hopefully you can give me some good advice, please help me out here!!

RxBanditVCG3 Reviewed by RxBanditVCG3 on 03-08-2008. Help with a VERY bad trip Hey, I had not smoked in about a month, and smoked with some of my friends last night. I got really messed up, probably because 1: I hadn't smoked in 3 weeks. 2: It was out of a zong, and I took 1 huge hit, then hours later took 2 more huge hits. and 3: It is the best stuff I've ever smoked. as the night went on, I felt/thought I was trapped in my own world. I thought the only way out was to either throw up or kill myself. I did not know what reality was, where we came from, why we are here. it Rating: 5

[Mr. Clandestine]

I think you should build your tolerance up before taking any huge rips from bongs or 'zongs'. I'm not ever sure what that is. Take it easy, and learn to relax when you do smoke again. If it's something you eventually learn to enjoy, you'll find out just how much works for you, and these bad 'trips' will become less frequent.

Lastly, we don't discuss mushrooms or any other type of illicit drug in any of these forums. Go to Erowid.com or something if you want to research more into that. These boards are strictly limited to medical marijuana and its patients. Just FYI.

Take care. :jointsmile:

[irkenelite]

i agree with Mr.Clandestine that you should start small and need to be in a relaxed environment. dont use a zong, thats over doing it. I would start with a toke or two from a pipe and see how that suits you. If it happens again i would ask your doctor about the possibility that cannabis may be reacting harshly with your prescription. there is a patient doctor privacy law the prohibits them from telling anyone of your smoking

[THClord]

I've had bad trips before and this is how I defeated it.

Know that it is 100% mental. I believe this is true. Know that before starting to smoke. Ask your friends if they think it's all mental or not to make yourself sure. Also mood influences your high, so try to be in a happy setting with chill music and close friends.

[angry nomad]

Hey, I had not smoked in about a month, and smoked with some of my friends last night. I got really messed up, probably because 1: I hadn't smoked in 3 weeks. 2: It was out of a zong, and I took 1 huge hit, then hours later took 2 more huge hits. and 3: It is the best stuff I've ever smoked. as the night went on, I felt/thought I was trapped in my own world. I thought the only way out was to either throw up or kill myself. I did not know what reality was, where we came from, why we are here. it was disturbing to me, everything was looping, and there was no way out other than death. I wanted to call 911, or do something to help me from hurting myself or someone else. my friends kept me calm, and mostly from doing anything stupid. I ended up throwing up and sleeping. I woke up hours later, ate some food, and fell back asleep. when I woke up today, I was still really confused as to what reality is. I wasn't as bad as the night before, looking out the window really helped. what started the bad trip was listening to some "dark" music, it was pulling me down it felt like. what I'm getting at is this: should I smoke again? I NEVER want to trip like that, I'm still a little confused. I do take lexapro for anxiety/mild depression, and had not slept much at all the 2 days before I smoked. Any advice of how I can keep this from ever happening again? also, side note, my friends are all getting shrooms, would it be a bad idea for me to try that out? I've never done it before and am really curious... hopefully you can give me some good advice, please help me out here!!

(emphasis added)

Hmm... in addition to smoking less at first, get some goddamn sleep!

Sleep deprivation causes strange thoughts, and even hallucinations. The theory is that the brain needs to dream, must dream, and will dream, even if the body does not sleep. I have hallucinated severely from sleep deprivation. I had not slept in about 30 hours or so. I felt fine. I was driving my girlfriend home, then BAM! I started hallucinating like mad. I kept thinking signs were people about to run across the road. I didn't tell my girlfriend because she didn't have a driver's license, so I just just kept going. Another thing sleep deprivation causes is lack of judgment.

It also may be reacting with your meds, which the others' said. Most anti-anxiety, and anti-depressants are psychotropics which put you into a semi-dreamlike state so negative feelings don't bother you as much.

Next time, listen to some chill music like reggae, or ambient music instead of metal or industrial, or watch a comedy movie like Half-Baked, or The Holy Grail. Also remember that it's all in your head, and you can control your thoughts.

I personally feel that weed makes me more focused. I kick ass so much more at Halo when I am stoned, because it makes me more focused. If I am thinking about funny things, happy things, I really focus on those thoughts. I get philosophical when I am high too. There is nothing wrong with questioning the nature of reality and existence, but you, in particular should probably not do that when you are high, because it leads you to such negative dark thoughts and feelings.

Tell your friends that you don't want to smoke so much next time. Just take a smaller hit from the bong, or smoke from a joint or pipe. Just take one hit, and wait about an hour. If you feel fine and that is as high as you want to be, then don't smoke anything more for the rest of the day. You be the judge of how much you want to smoke, and how high you want to feel.

There have been quite a few times where I smoked with some very heavy smokers. I am talking about people that smoke an 1/8 a day. (I normally smoke about 1/8 a week.) They are really cool, and want me to get as high as they are, but they just don't get that I am already more high than they are from those four big hits from that foot long blunt!

Yes, marijuana is hallucinogenic for some people some times. I call hallucinogens "absorbing drugs." In other words, it makes you feel like a sponge, and all senses are heightened, and thoughts are more intense. Whatever your environment is, you feel more of a part of. Just think about that next time, and set the mood with music, movies, cool friends. Maybe next time, go for a walk in the woods, or the beach. It's a cool feeling to be out in nature when you are high. You notice the sun, the winds, the water, the animals, flowers, and trees a lot more.

Peace.

[silkyblue]

sorry about your "bad trip"

Ive never had a bad trip ever

time to cut back, I wouldnt do the shrooms
or the zong, your drug use now, it will b a karma thang ,as you age. How ya gonna tell your grandchildren yeah, I smoked 'some dank' once



mellow yourself out

breath air deeply

Angry nomad said it well

[SparkSomeChange]

If youve had a bad "trip" on weed, itd be wise to stay away from shrooms for a while....

You just need to relax, ive felt scared before, but put on some good music and mellow out, it will be fine! :jointsmile:

[trynagethigh]

I agree with a lot that has already been said especially being in a relaxed environment. I find it very enjoyable smoking in the morning watching the sun come up and just listening to the sounds of nature. It takes away the stress. Music is also good to listen to while you blaze, pink floyd and a fat one go hand in hand.:thumbsup:

[TheSmokingMonkey]

I had a bad trip the other night. But I'm pretty good at thinking myself out of that stuff.

Here's what to do.

1. Go to the bathroom to collect yourself away from others.

2. Take a few deep breaths - but not too deep, or you may trigger vomiting.

3. Sit down for a moment and put your head down for a moment (this may or may not help depending on the cause of your anxiety). Rub your temples and give yourself a scalp massage.

4a. Identify the thing that is freaking you out. Often this might be overstimulation. Maybe you didn't get enough sleep. Maybe you don't trust the people you are with. Maybe things are just too crazy - like at a party or something.

4b. Get a handle on your anxiety - identify the concrete things in your physical environment that might be causing your bad trip. If nothing, then think about what in your life is nagging at you. You might need to find a quiet spot or go outside if you can't immediately identify the trigger.

5. Pee. Sometimes it can help get toxins out and help you feel better.

6. Wash your hands with cold water and splash a bit on your face.

7. Two more deep breaths.

8. Go outside, if needed, or return to party and monitor yourself after sitting quietly for a moment. Drink a glass of water.


This ritual unto itself can be comforting, as it is something concrete and familiar to return to in a tense situation. Concrete is important - don't let yourself stray from reality too far when having a bad time.

Oh yeah - and about me, the other night - I thought the bathroom tile was moving and doing crazy shit. It freaked me out until I was like, "But wait, dude, that is SO sweet." Positive attitude and a trusting outlook are super-important. You gotta trust the drug to lead you somewhere good, and it probably will.

[purdrums]

I had a bad trip too. I smoked weed for 2 years now and the last 3times I smoked I had a bad trip. First I start feeling really really high, then I got real hot and I felt dizzy and not feeling my tounge. My heart then starts beating really fast. I dont kno why that happened I smoked at least 30 times before that, and I am scared to smoke again. Mary Jane has been so good to me in the past. Anyone know what happened?