Drawn-out Dem fight could cost prez race

[Rusty Trichome]

Add on the fact McCain = 4 more years of Bush policy (even a Bush endorsement with his approval rating of ~30%) will do more harm then simple bickering between the democrats.

Bush isn't running, and his administration and policies will depart with him. You mention Bush's approval ratings, but failed to mention the current Senate ratings, or the current House ratings.

[Psycho4Bud]

And an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket will steamroll McCain flat as a pancake.

Way to much bad blood there now to have this happen and from here on out it'll be getting nothing but worse. A party divided and they were feeling SO sure about this time around.

Have a good one!:s4:

[dragonrider]

Way to much bad blood there now to have this happen and from here on out it'll be getting nothing but worse. A party divided and they were feeling SO sure about this time around.

Have a good one!:s4:

I think the division is all fake and everyone sees right through it. The two differ very little on policy, but in order to make it seem like there is a more dramatic choice between them, they blow the little differences out of proportion. It's a campaign tactic more than a real difference. They both have pretty thick skins and know this is all just about politics. It hasn't gotten very nasty or personal yet and they could patch it up easily. I think that is what will happen and then the joint ticket will move on to stomping poor McCain into the gorund. He'll look like a nasty piece of road pizza by the time this thing is over --- flat as a pancake, with unrecognizable bits smeared all over the pavement, smelly remains being picked at by crow and racooons. Poor bastard.

Too bad McCain didn't get the nomination 8 years ago. He's a good man and would probably be a good president, and he definitely would have done better in these past 8 years than dumbass dubbya. The time was right for a change 8 years ago, and Bush the moron barely sqeaked a victory out of it (with the help of the Supreme Court). But now the times are ready for a change again, and poor McCain doesn't have a prayer.

[ldg420]

Bush the moron barely sqeaked a victory out of it (with the help of the Supreme Court).

stop beating a dead horse...:beatdeadhorse: HE WON THE ELECTION.

can you honestly say Al Gore could have handled the burden of the presidency any better given what was about to unfold in 2001?


and as far as the dems go every time they bash each other on the record they collectively add fuel to the McCain general election fire, he could pretty much use the dem losers own words/sound bites as pro-McCain advertisements against the dem winner in the general election......:stoned:

[dragonrider]

stop beating a dead horse...:beatdeadhorse: HE WON THE ELECTION.

can you honestly say Al Gore could have handled the burden of the presidency any better given what was about to unfold in 2001?


and as far as the dems go every time they bash each other on the record they collectively add fuel to the McCain general election fire, he could pretty much use the dem losers own words/sound bites as pro-McCain advertisements against the dem winner in the general election......:stoned:

I know Bush won the election, and I never said he didn't. What I meant was that, even though he was a fool and puppet from day one, and everyone could see it, the times were so right for a change that he couldn't lose (even though he didn't actually win the VOTE, only the election, so he nearly blew a sure thing).

And what I neglected to add was that he sucked balls for the next eight years. Suck, suck, suck. You'd think he would have had enough of sucking balls by now, but he still keeps on sucking. Can't get enough of sucking balls, I guess. Sucks harder every day, and is likely to keep sucking right to the end. Suck, suck, suck balls.

Regarding your other question, yes, I think Al Gore or any half-retarded baboon could have handled the last eight years better. You'd have to really try to suck balls the way Bush has! No one can suck like dubbya!

And as far as the Dems go, there is a danger they will damage each other in a way that will hurt in the general election, but they haven't done it yet. Most of their criticism has been in the form of trying to draw non-existent differences between their policies, or their level of experience, or their kind of "vision." It's edged toward nasty, but has not gotten there yet. So far there is nothing for McCain to use.

Back to my original point. McCain is doomed. Just as George Bush and the Republicans benefited from the times being right for a change eight years ago, the Democrats will benefit this time.

[Psycho4Bud]

I think the division is all fake and everyone sees right through it. The two differ very little on policy, but in order to make it seem like there is a more dramatic choice between them, they blow the little differences out of proportion. It's a campaign tactic more than a real difference. They both have pretty thick skins and know this is all just about politics. It hasn't gotten very nasty or personal yet and they could patch it up easily. I think that is what will happen and then the joint ticket will move on to stomping poor McCain into the gorund. He'll look like a nasty piece of road pizza by the time this thing is over --- flat as a pancake, with unrecognizable bits smeared all over the pavement, smelly remains being picked at by crow and racooons. Poor bastard.

Mr Obama said: "You won't see me as a vice presidential candidate. I'm running for president. We have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton, and have a higher popular vote, and I think we can maintain our delegate count."
Barack Obama 'won't be Hillary Clinton's vice-president on dream ticket' - Telegraph

And don't even think that Clinton is going to play V.P. for Obama either. There are some hard feelings here.....really to bad.

The dems chances for the Whitehouse are being pissed away a day at a time. Oh well, the ship may be sinking but keep on bailing the water. To bad that there's more coming in than they can bail.

Have a good one!:s4:

[dragonrider]

Mr Obama said: "You won't see me as a vice presidential candidate. I'm running for president. We have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton, and have a higher popular vote, and I think we can maintain our delegate count."
Barack Obama 'won't be Hillary Clinton's vice-president on dream ticket' - Telegraph

And don't even think that Clinton is going to play V.P. for Obama either. There are some hard feelings here.....really to bad.

The dems chances for the Whitehouse are being pissed away a day at a time. Oh well, the ship may be sinking but keep on bailing the water. To bad that there's more coming in than they can bail.

Have a good one!:s4:

There's certainly nothing that says they won't blow a sure thing, but I don't think they will. Maybe Hillary will consent to be on the bottom for awhile --- I'm sure she prefers it on top, but maybe she could make an exception, especially if Obama does get an unbeatable lead in the awarded delegates. We'll see if there are hard feelings. I think it's mostly for show, and they both know it.

I checked out the link you posted, and did you see this graphic they had of the Democratic Donkey preparing to mount the Republican Elephant? I think that's an apt metaphor for what we are about to see in November. And the way this donkey is hung, that's something the elephant will never forget!

[human8]

The left wing flaps and the right wing flaps but its the head in the middle that thinks.

I keep seeing hints of a Hillary/Obama platform, now that this weeks episode of the reality show called the Democratic Caucus has dropped off in viewers, next episode Hillary joins with Obama in a unified something-or-other to challenge the republican neo-wrestler John I-been-tortured McCain. Who sees nothing wrong with sending more kids to die in a desert for oil. Ah well, theres always American Gladiators........Cheers!

[Psycho4Bud]

MR. RUSSERT: Senator Obama, I want you to respond to not holding oversight for your subcommittee. But also, do you reserve a right as American president to go back into Iraq, once you have withdrawn, with sizable troops in order to quell any kind of insurrection or civil war?

SEN. OBAMA: Now, I always reserve the right for the president -- as commander in chief, I will always reserve the right to make sure that we are looking out for American interests. And if al Qaeda is forming a base in Iraq, then we will have to act in a way that secures the American homeland and our interests abroad. So that is true, I think, not just in Iraq, but that's true in other places. That's part of my argument with respect to Pakistan.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/26/us...pagewanted=all

So we go through all the tough battles cleaning out insurgents from SEVERAL major cities in Iraq....pull out (since it's politically correct)...then when shit breaks loose we can do it all over again with sizable troop levels? And this assclown feels he's qualified to be Commander in Chief of our armed forces? What a joke!!

MR. RUSSERT: I want to ask both of you this question, then. If we -- if this scenario plays out and the Americans get out in total and al Qaeda resurges and Iraq goes to hell, do you hold the right, in your mind as American president, to re-invade, to go back into Iraq to stabilize it?

SEN. CLINTON: You know, Tim, you ask a lot of hypotheticals. And I believe that what's --

MR. RUSSERT: But this is reality.

SEN. CLINTON: No -- well, it isn't reality. You're -- you're -- you're making lots of different hypothetical assessments.

She doesn't come right out and say shit.....GREAT at dodgeball I'll bet. LOL

If ANYONE thinks that one of these two asshats are going to get us out of Iraq for good with tulips shooting out the asses of our soldiers is either nuts or VERY naive.

Have a good one!:s4:

The left wing flaps and the right wing flaps but its the head in the middle that thinks.

I keep seeing hints of a Hillary/Obama platform, now that this weeks episode of the reality show called the Democratic Caucus has dropped off in viewers, next episode Hillary joins with Obama in a unified something-or-other to challenge the republican neo-wrestler John I-been-tortured McCain. Who sees nothing wrong with sending more kids to die in a desert for oil. Ah well, theres always American Gladiators........Cheers!

LOL...you act as if Clinton or Obama are going to put an end to the war. If you REALLY want that, better vote for Nader.:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

[Psycho4Bud]

Maybe Hillary will consent to be on the bottom for awhile --- I'm sure she prefers it on top, but maybe she could make an exception, especially if Obama does get an unbeatable lead in the awarded delegates. We'll see if there are hard feelings. I think it's mostly for show, and they both know it.

You think that Bill and Hill are going to play second fiddle for Obama? When asked, Obama doesn't seem all that interested in even suggesting that she'd be a candidate for V.P..

Since, according to Clinton, "Obama Isn't Ready to Be President"....How is he ready to be the V.P.? Likewise, would she be considered as his "baby sitter" is he was the top candidate? What a quandary they've created!

Have a good one!:s4: