Drawn-out Dem fight could cost prez race

[Psycho4Bud]

With Republicans rallying around John McCain, Democrats Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama could imperil their partyâ??s quest for the White House by engaging in a prolonged nomination fight expected to sap money and organizing strength from their campaigns, political analysts said.

The fractious battle prompted an unusual intervention yesterday by Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, who said Sens. Clinton and Obama should consider making a deal to avoid a showdown at the partyâ??s national convention.

â??I think we will have a nominee sometime in the middle of March or April. But if we donâ??t, then weâ??re going to have to get the candidates together and make some kind of an arrangement,â?� Dean reportedly said.

While the Democrats battle one another, Arizona Sen. McCain can raise fistfuls of money and begin to focus his attacks on Obama and Clinton, who will be forced to keep their campaigns focused on securing the nomination. McCain emerged as the presumptive GOP nominee yesterday after former Bay State Gov. Mitt Romney bowed out of the race.

â??This is a dream for McCain and a nightmare for the Democrats,â?� said political strategist Michael Goldman. â??The argument from the Republicans will become, â??Look at the Democrats, they canâ??t even get along with each other; how are they going to govern the country.â?? â?�
Drawn-out Dem fight could cost prez race - BostonHerald.com

LOL....just like I've been stating in here. Keep on fighting.....the "right" appreciates it!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

Psycho4Bud Reviewed by Psycho4Bud on 03-07-2008. Drawn-out Dem fight could cost prez race With Republicans rallying around John McCain, Democrats Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama could imperil their partyâ??s quest for the White House by engaging in a prolonged nomination fight expected to sap money and organizing strength from their campaigns, political analysts said. The fractious battle prompted an unusual intervention yesterday by Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, who said Sens. Clinton and Obama should consider making a deal to avoid a showdown at the Rating: 5

[killerweed420]

Yep Hillary and Obama keep screwing around and the repubs will win by default. People will get tired of listening to there childish bickering.

[Mississippi Steve]

Hillary was in town here today... I was not allowed to attend because I had questions to ask her.....like How is she expecting to pay for all the BS she is trying to unload on the uninformed, and if she has plans to give us veterens the free medical and dental that we were promised when we enlisted, and how much longer will sole propriator businesses be paying more taxes than everybody else(I get hit with 32%!!), and how does she propose to control the boarders here??, and what is she gonna do with the 13 million illegals here?? Are the rest of us as tax payers going to have to continue to support them through the *free* government programs??

Like I said... they didn't want me there.

[Psycho4Bud]

and how does she propose to control the boarders here??, and what is she gonna do with the 13 million illegals here?? Are the rest of us as tax payers going to have to continue to support them through the *free* government programs??

LMAO...don't ask ANY of the candidates about illegals. They're all out to get the Mexican vote so that's a taboo issue right now.:S1:

Have a good one!:s4:

[dragonrider]

While the Democrats battle one another, Arizona Sen. McCain can raise fistfuls of money and begin to focus his attacks on Obama and Clinton, who will be forced to keep their campaigns focused on securing the nomination.

This is definitely a problem if they do not get it sorted out soon, but I don't think I agree with the comment about money above.

Last quarter Obama raised something like $50 million and Clinton about $35 million --- so $85 million between the two of them. During the same period, McCain got something like $15 million. I'm sure the Democrats would rather be planning to spend that money in November, instead of on each other, but it doesn't look like McCain is going to "raise fistfulls of money" without pandering a bit more to the evangelicals. Put on your ass-kissing lips, Johnie.

To some degree these kinds of fights help to strengthen a candidate by toughening them up for the November race and getting the inevitable negative factors out into the daylight so they can be dealt with early. But there is always the chance that a candidate could be damaged beyond rapair.

Also, if things get too negative and go on for too long, it could spoil the optimistic spirit that is really driving the Democratic party to have much more massive turnouts and raise much more money than the Republicans. The problem is that the two don't have very large policy differences, so their message comes down to blowing the small differences out of proportion and focusing on the negatives --- they need to knock that off soon.

I'm pretty sure it will come down to some kind of deal really soon.

[boaz]

you know, it looks like it may all come down to the great State of Pennsylvania for the Democratic nomination, so i think i can safely say the question on everyone's mind is . . . will RebGirl, assuming she is allowed to, pull a ModFather and vote for Hillary, just to mess with the Dem's?? its too late for me to do that, so i will never have to ask myself if i ever could have done it or not. :jointsmile:

[Zimzum]

Meh.. The GOP wont win. Americans are sick of the war and a pro war candidate will not do well in the national election. In almost every state that has held its primary so far, If you add up all the GOP votes, they don't even come close to the 2nd place Democrat. Assuming everyone who voted GOP votes McCain he wont even make a dent. Ron Paul supporters wont vote McCain and many Huckabee supporters will not vote McCain. Nader may mess up the Dem's but not as much as Paul/Huck screw with the GOP. While many Hillary/Obama supporters will support the other.

Some examples of state turnouts

MA (Dem's) 1,244,123 (GOP) 496,171
- Obama alone in 2nd place received 511,877

TX (Dem's) 2,818,599 (GOP) 1,320,653
- Obama alone in 2nd place received 1,358,785

NY (Dem's) 1,721,262 (GOP) 602,747
- Obama alone in 2nd place received 697,914

VA (Dem's) 970,393 (GOP) 481,980

MN (Dem's) 212,618 (GOP) 62,161
- Clinton received 68,607 in 2nd place

McCain wont pull much if any Obama/Hillary support. Where as someone like Ron Paul would have a better chance for the GOP to take the antiwar vote away from the DEM'S. The Dem's can fight all they want till they're blue in the face but all it will do is switch the vote to the other Dem, not to the GOP.

Add on the fact McCain = 4 more years of Bush policy (even a Bush endorsement with his approval rating of ~30%) will do more harm then simple bickering between the democrats.

[Psycho4Bud]

Ron Paul supporters wont vote McCain and many Huckabee supporters will not vote McCain. Nader may mess up the Dem's but not as much as Paul/Huck screw with the GOP. While many Hillary/Obama supporters will support the other.

I don't really think that any of the candidates really want the Ron Paul conspiracy crowd following them. Do ya really think that these people were the type to vote Republican in the first place? The anti-war crowd is from the left. Ron Paul and Ralph Nader have both done the GOP a favor!:thumbsup:

As for the Hillary/Obama supporters.....the thread below states it all. There is more and more hate developing and a very good chance that they'll cross lines to back McCain....the guy that has worked with the left in Senate time and time again.
http://boards.cannabis.com/current-e...wink-wink.html

[Psycho4Bud]

Almost forgot about the Huckabee supporters. Do ya really think that the evangelical voters are going to either vote for or stay home and allow a pro-abortion candidate to slide in? NOT likely at all.

McCain is their last chance when it comes to that issue not to mention appointments of people on the Supreme Court that hold their beliefs.

Have a good one!:s4:

[dragonrider]

I think they will have to come to some kind of agreement and settle this thing before too long. And I think what that means is that they will probably have a combined ticket. It's not what I would have wanted, and I'm sure it's not what either of them would have wanted. And who knows who will be at the top of the ticket. But given how much support they both have, I think it is probably the only agreement they will be able to make.

And an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket will steamroll McCain flat as a pancake.