Second grow same problemo

[Weedhound]

Looks like you have a lot of nice setups there.....pretty cool. :thumbsup:

If the plants are eating your numbers down you can probably up the number a little....keep an eye and make sure the numbers don't start RISING on you.

I think they do look better.....your northern lights looks a little....chewed....but is young enough to recover well (if she decides to recover) so I'd watch her for awhile and see if she starts to grow again.

Clones.....I am clueless with clones so cannot offer anything there. I'm just starting on my first practice clones myself.....so far none have made it.....so I'm pretty sure you don't need any help from me there!

[Weedhound]

I do remember Stinky mentioning to me that nitrogen can inhibit clone development so that makes me wonder about your (very) nitrogen rich plants and perhaps why you are having rooting issues.

[stinkyattic]

I'm just popping in for the firsts time but yes, indeed excessive nitrogen will inhibit rooting- the VERY simplified version of what the NPK is for... N=leaves. P=Roots n buds. K=Immune system and flowering. Don't give plants Nitrogen while they are still rooting; it makes them want to grow leaves instead. All they need is hormone and water at that point, and taking cuts off a plant that has been given a LOT of N recently also isn't all that great.

[Weedhound]

. Stinkster....can you give a bug report? See any bug issues in the photos?

[stinkyattic]

Can't see evidence of buggies but you've got some N overdose going on fo sho.

[grey1223]

When I started out cloning I had a hard time at first. Are your cuttings from Moms or Flowering plants. Clones from moms root easier than clones from flowering plants. I cloned from flowering plants for a few years and now use moms.

Also, I've used several methods to root clones. Used a couple of cloning machines EZ cloner etc... But I have great success rooting in Pro-Mix HP, which is my growing medium also. Just dip in rooting solution and insert into 18oz cups. I mist them a few times during first few days and within 10 days they are rooted and ready for a 20% nutrient solution.

[greenracer]

The clones were taken from a mom, who was cared for like a red headed stepchild. So many bugs, man, I'm not sure how my friend does it. So many eggs, so many eggs.......

Anyway, I take them home and treat them well and they routinely shit on me, while he has darn near 100% success doing the same things I do (so he says).

I use the Jumpstart for the clones, which doesn't give an NPK. I'll try anything, just tell me which way to bend on that one.

No live buggies left, that's for sure. But I see many eggs, not sure what to look for as far as ones that won't make it. I've done Safer Neem 3 times now (2 day treatments separated by 5-7 days) but still saw some crawling after that. The 50/50 99% seems to kill them well. I can see a few per viewing area (30x), now I see less, all deader than sh*t. I have to look for them now. But I'm checking them darn near constantly for those creeps.

Looking back, I probably took the clones from an N rich plant. But there is no asking, my buddy doesn't know jack. He really just feeds them miracle grow in an aeroponic solution. Yeah don't ask. His quality and yield are embarrasing to us all.

Thanks for the props on the setups, I got a new chop saw for Christmas...

Also, that retard plant will make it. Guaranteed. I had one go last time all the way, about 10-20% less yield but it did have nice nuggs and everyone told me they were great.... I wouldn't know personally. I had 17 others to smoke then.

However, I think you all have it right. I'm seeing too much N from overnuting. Guess the N hit them hardest. Backed off 2 days with water (this is a summary of the steps taken so far) and then went to 420 ppms. Down to 350 ppms now after about 36 hours. Will check tonight to find out where we stand.

Stinky, thanks for that little breakdown of the NPK, I've never seen it explained that way. Tre cool.

Well back to work/school/grow/life.... I'll get back when something changes or blows up in there.

I'm thinking about getting a lid for my other 3 x 3 grow (parked next door) and going with a drip inside the tray. I'll have 7 or 10 plants in there, so I might just go with a constant drip, lid suspending pots, and nice little hat covers for them like I see others have. I have laid mylar over the balls before but that just sucks, tough to clean. Also a much quiteter change out than digging through those balls in a plastic container. Ping ping.

[greenracer]

The clones were taken from a mom, who was cared for like a red headed stepchild. So many bugs, man, I'm not sure how my friend does it. So many eggs, so many eggs.......

Anyway, I take them home and treat them well and they routinely shit on me, while he has darn near 100% success doing the same things I do (so he says).

I use the Jumpstart for the clones, which doesn't give an NPK. I'll try anything, just tell me which way to bend on that one.

No live buggies left, that's for sure. But I see many eggs, not sure what to look for as far as ones that won't make it. I've done Safer Neem 3 times now (2 day treatments separated by 5-7 days) but still saw some crawling after that. The 50/50 99% seems to kill them well. I can see a few per viewing area (30x), now I see less, all deader than sh*t. I have to look for them now. But I'm checking them darn near constantly for those creeps.

Looking back, I probably took the clones from an N rich plant. But there is no asking, my buddy doesn't know jack. He really just feeds them miracle grow in an aeroponic solution. Yeah don't ask. His quality and yield are embarrasing to us all.

Thanks for the props on the setups, I got a new chop saw for Christmas...

Also, that retard plant will make it. Guaranteed. I had one go last time all the way, about 10-20% less yield but it did have nice nuggs and everyone told me they were great.... I wouldn't know personally. I had 17 others to smoke then.

However, I think you all have it right. I'm seeing too much N from overnuting. Guess the N hit them hardest. Backed off 2 days with water (this is a summary of the steps taken so far) and then went to 420 ppms. Down to 350 ppms now after about 36 hours. Will check tonight to find out where we stand.

Stinky, thanks for that little breakdown of the NPK, I've never seen it explained that way. Tre cool.

Well back to work/school/grow/life.... I'll get back when something changes or blows up in there.

I'm thinking about getting a lid for my other 3 x 3 grow (parked next door) and going with a drip inside the tray. I'll have 7 or 10 plants in there, so I might just go with a constant drip, lid suspending pots, and nice little hat covers for them like I see others have. I have laid mylar over the balls before but that just sucks, tough to clean. Also a much quiteter change out than digging through those balls in a plastic container. Ping ping.

WOW. Res ph spiked to 6.5 overnight. HELLLLLP!

[greenracer]

Didn't mean to quote that last one. Geesh I should take a class or something.

[Weedhound]

If something blows up we DEFINITELY want some photos....