Third Grow

[dejayou30]

I play bass, but the tryout was a bust. I went to the practice space which is a storage facility and the dude wouldn't answer his phone, and then it was just turned off. It was just some metal band I was going to check out because the singer of my last band sings for them now. I just wanted to jam because my other band only practices weekly.

Anyways, since there was no tryout, you get pictures of my nasty looking roots sooner! The ones on the right of the bin are the sad black looking ones, but the ones on the left are only black and nasty on the very inner edge of the root mass. My only guess, aside from root rot, is that it could be from when I apply the pH down. If so, whats the best way to go about this? How much should I dilute it before putting it in the res? Or maybe its just root rot and it doesn't matter.

It ended up taking THREE bins to hold the water straight. The 50 gallon Rubbermaid Duratotes from your local department store are VERY weak sided and thin. All in all though, I'd say my situation is pretty good though. I have half the plants looking very healthy, and while the other half have black roots and yellowing leaves, they don't look all that bad. They are at least better than the worst plants during my last grow so it technically IS an improvement, however still a sad one.

I added 3 tbsp of H202 and I am sitting at 5.6 pH and 1000 PPM at 67 degrees. Here are the pics, get ready to vomit! The first one is the right side, inward from the top. The second is also the left side from a level view inside the bin. Third one is the left side, which is the healthy looking side. Fourth is the bottom of the left side (see how only the edge closest to the inside is black?:wtf And the fifth one is my ladies.

Now I need some advice! Go for it.:jointsmile:

[Weedhound]

What
The
Fuck?

Holy SHIT! What happened there?!!! You had the most gorgeous roots EVER!

Thats some sort of rot for sure....that's not ph down. Can't remember if you know this already but but 1 teaspoon equals 5ml....in case you can't measure mls directly. so you added 15 mls....you have about 30 gals of water?

I'd like you to do that without fail every OTHER day or anytime you change and/or add water.
You REALLY need to hit that hard and fast Deja. There are some folks here who use a larger amount of H202 than the dose I gave you (which I got from my hydro man) so that may be something you want to think about . I'm telling you so that you have all the options I can think of to work with.

there was another post.....brb....

[dejayou30]

Yeah, I'm not sure what happened. the only thing I can think of is that I didn't add the two airstones on the end until 4 days after I put them in the new res, so maybe it was just too long? The picture makes it look worse than it is I think. I should have taken an underside shot of the right side because its probably about 60% white roots and black on the inside. Do you think I need even more air stones? I have three bubble curtains and two 10" stones in there right now.

I will start adding the H2O2 regularly. Is 2.5 gallons enough water to dilute it?

[rhizome]

Nasty, but it's not recent damage. I'm not even gonna hazard a guess at what the original trauma was.

If ya look for em, you can see some healthy root growth moving into the damage zone, and no much that's dieing- plenty that's dead. I'm thinking that they'll heal better/quicker if you can get the rotting stuff and slime out

Ya sure do got some bio-slime going there, tho. Yer gonna want to put a screen over your return, disconnect it from the res, put a jumper over to your waste drain/bucket. Now block the return so the table can't drain, flood it, and massage those roots by hand to comb out the really loose, rotting crap, and knock off a little bit of the slime. Dump the now nasty table full of nute, fill the res w/ plain ph'd water, and rinse everything. If yer water isn't municipally chlorinated, ya might wanna add maybe a drop of bleach per 5 gallons. Easy, though...

Dump and clean out the res before ya call it done- really not likely to be much of a problem area, but it's really easy to service.

Ya might wanna think about a bacterial innoculant, if only to compete w/ whatever the hell that is.



Does this table stay wet / get anaerobic? Shit can't sit in still water- goes sour.

[Weedhound]

Oh thank god.....for two reasons.

1. Rhizome knows a HELL of a lot better than I do what to do here.

2. I'm not the only one who doesn't know what that is.......

Rhiz this has happened in all three of his grows. He uses Botanicare. WTF is that?

[Weedhound]

I googled "bio-slime"......all I got was a movie title.....

[rhizome]

It's probabley not the nutes, unless they've gone bad. Kinda hard to miss. Botanicare stuff does have a lot of sucrose in it, so it can go pretty bad- but it's usually tough to miss.

It's a bacterial infection- otherwise known as rot. The slime on the outside is just whatever psuedos happen to have got hold first- not great, as they block gas exchange and inhibit water movement, but not usually world ending.

I associate that particular grey-green-black w/ anaerobic infections, but that's really just a gut.

Didn't realize Deja had gone DWC- How much mass is he trying to support on how many air pumps?

[rhizome]

I googled "bio-slime"......all I got was a movie title.....

Try " bioslime" , no hyphen.

[Weedhound]

Tried to rep you....must have recently.....Thanks Rhizome...and thanks for clone info.
I will google bioslime....

[Weedhound]

The Growing Edge Magazine - Bioslime Can Wreak Havoc