alright i donot agree with the bush admin., i do think we had no buisness invading iraq, i do think that iraq posed no threat to us, fact is that the "jihadist" are not going to take over america. i dont know why we are at war with iraq but i have my suspicions (ill not elaberate here thats for anther thread).

we may hve let our leaders make the wrong choice, bush my be a "war crimanal", this may be his "holy war" BUT all this no matter what does not change the fact that it happened and we are there.we are mired up to our nuts in a country that needs us right now. wether they want a democracy or even if they want to become a comunist state thats up to the people of iraq to ultimatly decide. the absolute worst thing wecould do for the people of iraq and the rest of the free world is to just cut and run pull the troops out and come home leaving he people of iraq to fend for themselves.

people talk about the number of refugees and dead civillians in iraq that was caused by us. again this is an argument for another thread. but what they dont consider is how that number will double if not increase even more if we just up and leave. first thing that is going to happen is that the sunni, or maybe shiite will decide to have a civil war or ethnic cleansing.once the country i weakened even more iran is going to move in for the kill. and then when iran controls iraq they will become the controlers of the oil and that my freinds is the life blood of the free world.

i dont buy into all the far mongering and i am a liberal but i am ultamatly an american. i love my freedom or at least what i have left. pulling the troops out and opening up iraq for invasion will eventualy lead to the down fall of the american way of life . it may not happen the day or even the year after but if you cripple us thru the cost and availability of oil then it will open us up for a real attack on america. maybe not from jihadist but how bout china or russia. the american army is highly mechanized and with out oil the tanks dont move if the tanks dont move the tanks dont fight. a tank that dont fight becomes a billion dollar fox hole. even the infantry needs oil, we cant move our troops from place to place efficiantly with out a truck or a plane.

i will agree that we need to get our troops out of harms way but we cant do that with out first re-stabilizing iraq. we have to have an exit stratagy that will not leave them vulnerable.