Gazzeruk26, the only thing I said that wasn't man made was War's. Regardless, man made or not it is still a catalyst for human population decrease. Because Man made and non man made factors existed it ultimately took the place of "natures way of taking care of buisness", such as genetic disorders.

And as far as Vej's comment, I think you've brought us to that stopping point where the barrier of unknown forces us to limit the debate. Good job, you beat me to it you bastard lol!