Gay at birth?

[Dream of the iris]

t's a day in the not-too-distant future. A woman, three months pregnant, sits anxiously in her obstetrician's office pondering the possibility of giving birth to a gay kid.

Perhaps, she thinks, she shouldn't have agreed to the test in the first place. Maybe it would've been better not to know, to have left everything to fate. And what difference did it make, really? Like most of her friends, the woman, though moderately religious, considers herself an open-minded cosmopolitan with a Seinfeld-ian attitude toward homosexuality: "not that there's anything wrong with that!"

Already, some scientists claim they can potentially identify fetuses hardwired for homosexuality, and the gap between recognition and intervention is quickly narrowingAt least that's how she feels about other people's gay children. But this is her baby, her first and perhaps only one. And however much she and her husband try to reconcile themselves to the idea, they know the world at large will always remain a uniquely difficult place for a boy who likes other boys.

Without resolving this conflict, she consents to an analysis of her amniotic fluid sample, mentally grouping it with the tests already performed to look for markers of Huntington's disease and Down syndromeâ??things to be ruled out. Only this time, the results have come back positive.

And now she has a choice to make. A hormone patch, applied to her belly, could redirect her child's genetic destiny, reversing the sexual orientation inscribed in his chromosomes. There would be one fewer homosexual in the worldâ??if that's what she wants.

Your Favorite Genes
It's not as far-fetched as it sounds. Already, some scientists claim they can potentially identify fetuses hardwired for homosexuality, and the gap between recognition and intervention is quickly narrowing. Some of the more notable research on the subject has focused on animalsâ??namely, sheep. Last December, researchers at two Oregon universities concluded a three-year study on sheep sexuality in which they studied the effects of hormones on rams who prefer rams. Though attempts to alter the sexual preference of sheep failed, the mere idea was enough to raise the ire of gay rights advocates, notably tennis player Martina Navratilova, who called the study "homophobic and cruel" and said it deprived the sheep of their "right" to be gay. In an article on the study in London's Sunday Times, experts predicted that within a decade, similar patches would allow parents to change fetuses' sexual orientation.

[Ed. note: The article article in the London Times was retracted after print publication of this story in Radar. The above paragraph has been updated to reflect the corrections.]

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So apparently from what is stated above because we can determine if someone is gay before birth its is becomming evident that it is a genetic disorder rather than a choice in life. Now don't get me wrong or anything I'm not against gay people and all that gay stuff but if it is pre determined in our genes then I believe it is a genetic disorder. Now this doesn't mean a bad thing it just means it is in fact a disorder by definition. Disorder simply means lack of regular arrangement. Now I don't think it is a mistake that there are 6.5 billion people in this World and rising, most of whom are straight and I don't think it is an accident that we reproduce by inserting a penis into the vagina so all of that evidence just goes to show that it really is a disruption in regular arrangement. This can be compared to why Jeffery Dahmer went on a killing spree. He didn't kill like Ted Bundy because he was just an ass he actually killed people because it was a sexual drive just as it is a sexual drive for a guy to have sex with another guy. The difference between Jeff and gay people, though is that Jeff is a serious disorder that obviously cannot be kept in society whereas gayness is a disorder that can and should be accepted in society just as somone born without a leg should be accepted in society. It really is appalling to hear Christians like my Mom to say that gay people are going to hell. Not only is this very presumpious but it is just as bad as saying a down syndrome kid is going to hell. Anyway thats my two cents on gay people. Any thoughts?

Dream of the iris Reviewed by Dream of the iris on 02-26-2008. Gay at birth? t's a day in the not-too-distant future. A woman, three months pregnant, sits anxiously in her obstetrician's office pondering the possibility of giving birth to a gay kid. Perhaps, she thinks, she shouldn't have agreed to the test in the first place. Maybe it would've been better not to know, to have left everything to fate. And what difference did it make, really? Like most of her friends, the woman, though moderately religious, considers herself an open-minded cosmopolitan with a Rating: 5

[bluebird]

As a bisexual, I think a lot of the metaphors you made in your post were a bit offensive.

And I would agree that attempting to figure out a way to make homosexuals not homosexual is cruel. Sure you can shove a hormone patch on your stomach to make your kid straight. At the same time, you can put your kid through Micheal Jordan's routine, and take away whatever melanin he was born with so that you end up with a pretty, white, straight kid.

Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean it's good for you to do it.

[Shenanigans]

Hm, That is an interesting idea, it totally makes sense. If something can be determined from our genes, than it only makes sense that it would be a disorder, unless we could just consider it a trait, like determining what color eyes the kid will have.

I've never had a problem with gay people, or really any sort of people specifically. My problem with it all is that alot of people seem to have a problem with gay people because of religion and such, which really bugs me that they are using religion to be a reason to hate people. I don't think that it should be changed if someone is gay or not. I think people should come as they are and just be accepted for that.

[Dream of the iris]

hmmm perhaps I should be more clear on what I'm NOT ADVOCATING. I'm not saying this should be implemented or anything I'm just pointing out the fact that being gay is genetically determined rather than a choice and that by technicality it is a disorder because whatever God is whether he or she be non existent or just nature itself intended for Males to be naturally attracted to females. Not that I have anything wrong with being gay because I do have gay friends who are really cool I'm just pointing out that it is not the norm in nature....otherwise reproduction would occur with two males and not a male and a female.

[Dream of the iris]

oh yeah sorry for the double post but I forgot to respond to shenanigans post. In response to that I would have to say this: thats not the same because it doesn't matter what color eyes you have or what your skin color is, thats not disrupting the natural order of life where as being attracted to men technically isn't supposed to happen....it just does thus a disorder.

[quaz808]

This is a bunch of mumbo jumbo devil science. The lord created us in his image!! That image was not gay! The lord didn't fancy hairy dude bums and neither does anyone out of the womb! Being gay is a choice, no other explanation is needed but what comes from the bible!! Thats what I hear from this guy anyway
Watch this one first, you non believers!
YouTube - Ted Haggard Bashing Gays - from JESUS CAMP the Movie ON DVD

Then this one! The Lord is magical!!!
YouTube - Ted Haggard admits he bought Meth from gay prostitute

[Reefer Rogue]

I don't believe anyone is born gay and i never will.

[dragonrider]

I don't believe anyone is born gay and i never will.

Haven't you ever seen a gay baby? They disco dance right out of the womb wearing rainbow suspeneders. Raising a gay baby can be a challenge --- it takes a Village People.

[Dream of the iris]

Well see just like a straight person they don't develop the desire for "affection" right at birth....it's usually when you get to that age in life where you begin to feel attracted to either male or females. Every gay friend I have ever had has always said they found out they were gay when they were in like 4th or 5th grade. Also by using the theory that it is an inherent trait rather than a choice it backs up the mystery in two gay parents raising a straight person or two straight parents raising a gay person. If it really was by choice than that would mean it would have to do with the way a child grows up. So if it really was a choice than people raised under a household that expresses the idea of being gay as normal would in turn raise a child to become gay. But this in fact is not true because there are many instances that occur in which a gay person grows up in a straight household, some even being heavy conservatives, and a straight person growing up in a gay household.

[dragonrider]

Apoliogies to the Born Free theme song...


Born gay, as gay as gay rainbows
As gay as gay dance shows
Born gay to follow your heart

Live gay and booty surrounds you
The world still astounds you
Each time you cruise through a bar

Stay gay, with some dude behind you
You're gay as a blushing bride
So there's no need to hide

Born gay, and life is worth living
But only worth living
'cause you're born gay

Stay gay, with some dude behind you
You're gay as a flaming bride
Now there's something inside

Born gay, and life is worth living
But only worth living
'cause you're born gay