The Hounds' Cannabis Capsule Guide with Flame-On's Recipe

[Weedhound]

And Moby,

Dont stress over a taplespoon or whatever.....throw in some weed....throw in some oil and go for it!! :thumbsup:

[Opie Yutts]

Pssst, I got the stuff man.

Yes it only took 7 phone calls to different health food stores and a 3 1/2 hr. drive total to two different stores to get all the stuff. No exaggeration. OK, deduct 10 minutes for a quick stop off at the hydro store for a light meter and tds meter. (Damn those truncheons, I'm pissed.) I know what you're saying. Amazon. Sorry, when I want something, for some reason I usually have to have it now. Well "have to" is of course too strong, but Amazon didn't have same evening shipping.

Here's the breakdown in case someone's interested:

- $11.29 for 16 oz extra virgin coconut oil. This is supposedly on sale at about half, not sure.
- $13.39 for 500 empty gelatin capsules, size 00.
- $13.49 for 2 cents worth of plastic in the form of a capsule filler, holds 50.
- $5.99 for the accessory tamper. I found it interesting that this was sold as an option. Wouldn't not having it kinda defeat the whole purpose of the machine? Wouldn't it make the filler not so much of a filler, but more of a holder upper?
Total: $44.16, unless you want to include gas at 13 mpg, for a total of $144.16.

Did I get all the right stuff?

Weedhound, thank you for answering my questions and thanks so much for the guide, and getting me excited about the capsule thing. Flameon, thanks so much for the guide and getting Weedhound excited about the capsule thing. God, thanks so much for the bountiful harvest and getting everybody excited about the capsule thing.

[Weedhound]

Thats IT! You have the weed, crockpot, bowl (or whatever you cook in) and candy thermometer right? You are GOOD TO GO!!! :thumbsup:

And you really can do this with small amounts as well as large...I have done it in a coffee cup as Flame-on said many times with a couple grams and a couple spoonfuls of oil with good results.....watching temps etc because that's where I'll usually miss something. It takes quite a while to get the mix to the right temp to begin with.....about an hour or so in the crockpot so that's wasted time right there. And a smaller amount of weed and oil will tend to heat up more so you have to keep a closer eye than if you are heating more "total volume" at once.

I had tried using my crockpot before with Flame's original thread but did not have good results the first few times and looking back now I can easily see that I did things wrong both ways in cooking.....not getting the temps high enough (in my personal experience below 200 seems to stop the process) and cooking it at too high temp (above 275 with a definite loss of potency) so this is what I have found works the best and it involves checking temps fairly often and keeping them on track. For awhile I went back to the VERY first recipe I tried to make capsules with which involved a small saucepan and the same candy thermometer I use today. This was MUCH more time consuming but more exact (since I literally sat at the stove with the mixture for up to three hours ) so I feel fairly confident I've learned my share about cooking ganja at different temps.

Good luck Opie. Hope they are as enjoyable for you as they have been for us.

You got burned on the tamping thing......ours came with it and the super cool custom card.

[Opie Yutts]

You got burned on the tamping thing......ours came with it and the super cool custom card.

Oh yeah? Well you got burned since yours only holds 24 so there. Just kidding, I know I got burned and I expected it. For crying out loud I had to go to the upper floor of a damn mall to get the tamper. I pretty much know that's about the most expensive place I can get the stuff. Now I know where all the high school kids go after school instead of to practice a sport or something, or to a part time job God forbid. Is it just me, or are teenagers more rude than they used to be?

The deal is, I wouldn't really care if this stuff cost $4, $40, or $140.44. It's not like I have money to burn or anything, but the potential coolness factor greatly outweighs that little cost difference. Kinda like you know youâ??re going to end up with a digital ballast so you just go ahead and get one. Just think of the stealth involved. That alone is worth thousands in my book. Not to mention convenience, ease of dosage control, PPP, or power pack potential (unlike smoking). I hate it when you try and get nice and toasty for a movie or something, then after all your efforts the buzz is wearing off just as you're walking in the doors. Well here it is, problem solved. Just pop a couple 3 an hour before show time, and make sure your group has a designated driver. He can smoke across the street in the burger joint's parking lot before the show.

Sorry, I just took a couple rips and that tends to make me a little chatty. Long story short, I'm doing it man. Woo hoo! and stuff. I'm pretty excited. My last few attempts at cooking have been dismal failures at best, but for some reason I got a good feeling about this one. Maybe it's my trust in Weedhound. Pretty sure that must be it, that and Flameon.

I hope you're right about the low temperatures, because they're staying around 218. Been that way for about 1 3/4 hr. now. I failed to bring home a candy thermometer or a pepper mill, both of which I intended to buy. Completely spaced it. Damn stoner. The chef in that one link said that he has experimented and the pepper mill on fine setting is the best method. I do have a meat thermometer, which seems to be working fine. The only problem is that it only goes up to 220. I've overdriven it a little and can get 225 out of her, but I'm trying to keep everything around 220 so I know I'm not going way too hot or something. I'm a little worried that perhaps it's best to at least achieve boiling temp. Thoughts? I'm on low and keeping the lid cracked just slightly to achieve that temp. One word of advice though, for awhile I think the meat thermometer was measuring the temperature of the rim of the bowl instead of the weed solution. I propped it up off the bowl and got a different set of readings, about 6 or 8 degrees cooler I think.

Years back my wife knew what temperature was supposed to come from the low and high setting, but not anymore. She said that she did know however, that there is a nice digital model on sale at Costco. I asked her if she could bring it home tomorrow.

Now that I figured out how to stabilize at a good temperature, I was wondering what would happen if it slow cooked for 7 hours while I slept. The oil doesn't evaporate does it? The THC isn't going to go anywhere is it? As far as I know it could only make it better. Any thoughts on that one, anyone? I guess that will be more for next time for me since I'll go ahead and ride this one out. I'll let you know, and thanks again.

[Weedhound]

You Dog!! I'd LOVE one of those digital crockpots but am getting the big scowl from Mr Hound when I mention it. I think it's like you said though, eventually it will find it's way here.

My last batch (the one in the photos) I never went over 230F on them and they've come out quite well so I really think your temps are good.

Time wise....our pot doc seems to think that you really cannot overcook the thc if you stay on low temps. In the recipes she gave me the directions w/crockpot are on low for 3-4 hours. She took a pen and crossed that out.....wrote in 6+ hours by hand. Her words to us were......"the longer the better" so I imagine overnight would be ok but I've never honestly tried it. (Pssst...once I get a digital crockpot I will.....shhhhhh)

These really do solve the problem of getting stoned and then having your buzz wear off just when things get good or you are someplace where you simply cannot disappear and smoke a doobie quickly or something. That idea was what started my stumbling around with this method. After smoking both cigs and weed for many years my lungs are about gone and I REALLY needed a way to ingest the weed without smoking. And yes they are easy to carry and quite discreet.....I honestly like them better than cookies (less calories as well. :thumbsup

Ps....While the chef was able to get by a drug dog unnoticed I personally would consider that lucky and I myself would in NO WAY test a drug dog by having these pills on me and feeling they won't set off the dog. Maybe they will or maybe they won't but I have a LOT of faith in those dogs. Just my :twocents:

[Opie Yutts]

Those friggen dogs are amazing. I think the numbers for bloodhounds are something like 700 times more nerve endings in the nose than humans, and each nerve ending is 1000 times more sensitive. (Discovery channel) That guy was darn lucky IMO.

Alright, I'll be trying a couple capsules in 3 or 4 hours. They turned out fair for my first time. They only ended up about an average of 80% full, and I got 38 of them from 10.1 grams of destemmed and finely herb ground AK-47. For first-timers: don't push down as hard as it looks like Mr. Hound is pushing on his tamper. It looks like he's putting most of his weight on the thing, and you definitely don't want to do that. I didn't press real hard, and I still got the stuff squishing out the top of the capsules from pressing down too hard. It got all over everything in a thin layer and was about impossible to salvage, so I ended up wasting about 2 capsules-full total. In fact I understand now why the tamper is optional. I may not even use it next time. I spread the stuff with a rubber spatula, then the card. At that point I wish I would have went through each one with a chop stick or something instead of trying to do them all at once with the tamper. What happens if air get trapped in the bottom? It won't happen with dry powder, but with this stuff it seemed to happen a lot.

I was wondering if you do anything about the fact that when you put the small part of the capsule back on, it's empty and therefore wastes room in the capsule. You guys don't fill up that small part too do you? Well I just looked at your photo again, and it looks like yours are about 90-95% full, with some of them looking nearly completely full. How did you do that, unless you filled the little parts as well?

More first-timer advice: When you float your mixture in ice water as Weedhound does, be careful and stir often or constantly. I put mine in the water, then put about 15 empty caps in the machine, and by that time much of the goop had frozen to the bottom of the bowl. I heated it up a little, which ended up being a little too much, so I cooled it again and did the same damn thing, but not as bad. I hope freezing and thawing isn't going to adversely Affect the Effect. We shall see. If so, it will be like a crap shoot; the stuff in some of the pills was never frozen. Also don't worry so much about working fast like I did. I was afraid the stuff was going to solidify before I could get it in the caps, but it basically stays malleable even after cooling some. At least I hope it's supposed to since mine did.

What else, I know there was something. Uhhh, damn head, think. Oh yeah, I was wondering what you do about the oil all over the outside of the capsules, or did that only happen to me since I squished the stuff out, and all over the capsules. I ended up wiping them off individually with a paper towel, but they're still a little greasy. Also, 4 of mine got melted ends, on the bottom as they sat in the machine. After sitting a few hours they got nice and hard again (relatively), but they look like they got elephantiasis or something. Do you think this was because the goop was still too warm, or was it more likely that I had a little moisture in the tray since it didn't happen to the other 34?

As far as I know (except the freezing thing) everything turned out the way it was supposed to. I ended up with a very dark green, almost black paste. Looking real forward to a few hours from now. Have I said this yet?: Thank you.

[Weedhound]

Now you've got ME all excited like it was my first time too, lol. Be patient....give it PLENTY of time to really get good....about 2 hours it pretty well set and gets better from there.

The melted bottoms sounds like heat...we made the same mistake the first tiime we made capsules too and ended up melting the capsules all in the machine so we had to toss to the whole thing and buy a new one.

Yes it DOES take a while to cool....in fact too long which is why I started speeding the process up with the ice water.

I know from watching Mr Hound that he doesn't put any in the smaller capsules....just in the one side. He also LOVES his tamper thingie so I'll ask him about it when I can grab him. I don't have the slightest bit of patience in the world to sit there and fill all those little holes up.....I'd go crazy. i'm pretty sure he does wipe the pills off with a paper towel after he pops them out of the machine.

Update us with a "pill report" when you can.

Ps...I don't think freezing would hurt things....they put leaves etc in ice water to make some kinds of hash don't they?

[MVP]

Freezing won't hurt them a bit. I have 20-some capsules in my freezer right now just waiting until after I get a new job.... then watch out!

[MVP]

Also I only fill the main capsule and then pop the top on it. If you try to fill both halves they will have too much inside when you compress them together to seal the capsule.

[Opie Yutts]

Double turds!!!

Don't you just hate it when you waste nearly a half oz to experiment with cooking and it's a complete waste? I know I do. I'm sick of it, as it is the story of my life. I wonder how many pounds of good bud I've wasted over the years, trying to get simple recipes to work for me. What the hell is wrong with me? Why will cooking not work for me anymore, while my few tries in college worked wonderfully?

I took 2 of my normal capsules and my one that only got half full, so I suppose that's about like two of Weedhound's. That was more than 2 hours ago and nothing has happened so far. That's pissing me off enough so that I just took 4 more. If that doesn't do at least a little something, I am never again doing anything else with weed except smoking. Or maybe I'll take the remaining 31 all at once and see if that does anything. It's not like I'm cooking with dirt weed here for crying out loud. The AK-47 nuggets were nice and sugar coated, and they are a one hitter for the vast majority.

Lord how I want to take a hit right now, but I'm waiting to make sure I don't confuse the two methods or something. Oh, here's something interesting. I do have a very slight minty weed type taste in my mouth. Maybe its' working now.