Aye, Venrain was'nt very informative, I beleive for good results I'll have to sample it myself. I checked out a few of those links, I'm quite tired but be assured tomorrow I'll read up all I can, thanks for being so informative Ermitonto, on both my threads. Thank you to Suburban, I'll definately go check that out, probably right now, anyway.

BOUNCE, BOINGGGGGAA
There let's get some more information, lol.