Fear mongering :chainsaw: Can our government show us atleast one case since 9/11 where FISA or the Patriot Act have have actually been a success at stopping an attack? I say let it expire and get filed away in the dungeon of the pentagon. Laws like these treat everyone as a "suspect" and have no regard to personal privacy or oversight. Why hasn't Bush assigned anyone to the newly empowered privacy and civil-liberties commission? Without better transparency of how our government uses its own power we are no better then the former USSR.



"I have no problem with telecoms being encouraged to cooperate with the government," he said. "The question is, was it legal or was it criminal? That is the pre-condition to dealing with immunity. We can't give retroactive immunity when we don't know what it is we are giving immunity for." - Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.)

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