Quote Originally Posted by dgsgandalf
Liquid fence? I've never heard of it. What exactly is it and where can i buy it? It's strange, because i see rabits around my patch almost every time i go out there, but they never seem to chew on my plants. There are deer in the area too, but they don't seem to do anything either.
Quote Originally Posted by dgsgandalf

When would you recommend topping? Should i wait for there to be 5-7+ nodes or can i do it now? I'm not really that worried about security beacuse the plants are well hidden in an obscure location, but i AM worried about yield. Since this is my first outdoor grow, i'm trying not to have too high expectations, but i still wanna do the best i can.

I just started 5 new LR2's in the closet and i'll probably plant them in organic top soil when i move them outside.

If you can think of anything else or any general tips for outdoor growing, i'd love to hear them!
IMO LF (Liquid Fence) is a great product that smells like shit. Iâ??ve got deer and rabbit all over the place and they leave my plants alone. Iâ??ve always used LF, and I know that if I didnâ??t my plants would be eaten to nearly nothing. Thatâ??s what happens to all tender shoots around here, even ones right up close to our house. I wouldnâ??t consider an outdoor grow in a forest without the stuff. Itâ??s guaranteed to work and itâ??s rain repellent, so you donâ??t have to apply it every time it rains. I think they recommend at least once a month or something.

They make a few different kinds, but youâ??re probably after the deer and rabbit one like in the pictures. I first bought the pre mixed version and quickly ran out, so I bought the concentrate which makes it pretty economical.

If youâ??re seeing signs of rabbit and deer you are tempting fate if you donâ??t take measures to prevent your plants from being eaten or trampled. Oh yeah, my very first outdoor grow in this area was started without any pest deterrent, and the deer ended up making a trail right through the middle of the grow. They didnâ??t eat anything, but they trampled a few plants to death. Thatâ??s when I discovered LF.

You can buy it at any farm store, and probably a lot of garden stores. Around here the big farm stores are Coastal and Wilco. Itâ??s also available all over the internet. One thing to consider however, an actual fence can also serve as something to tie the branches to when the get heavy with bud. Iâ??ve had more than a few break on me once they get wet.

I top once the plants are strong and healthy, like after a month of good growth, then maybe again in 3 weeks, but not always. You can do it any time you think a plant can take it, but Iâ??d let it have at least 3 or 4 good nodes first. I think itâ??s kinda important for outdoor plants because it makes more buds and smaller buds. If you just have a few big colas they may be more likely to break then a bunch of smaller ones. If youâ??re somehow supporting everything then it doesnâ??t matter. Topping, FIMing, LSTing, not topping, whatever, all produce about the same yield. Theyâ??re just different roads to the same destination. In general, I try to leave my plants alone as much as possible, and definitely donâ??t cut on them once they go to flower.

Iâ??ve often thought of trying LR2. Looking forward to seeing what happens with yours. As far as anything else I can think of for you, you might this interesting: http://boards.cannabis.com/outdoor-growing/154446-growing-ethics.html

I hope that helps. Anything else let me know.