Donkey Dick and VT local IBL Indoor/Outdoor 2008

[stinkyattic]

I think I need to clarify what an IBL is.

Any strain can potentially BECOME an IBL over time if it is bred and stabilized for long enough, and all the instances of phenotypes that do not represent the desired strain traits are discarded and not used for breeding. This takes many generations of work to accomplish, but in the end, the result is that anyone can make their own seed crop from the beans they get.

Most strains on the market are F1 hybrids, or strains that may or may not be fully stable, but the seeds are being bred from only a very specific breeding pair of individual plants, and are predictable. Some breeders, such as Subcool, don't even wait long enough to assure little to no phenotypic variation among the generation being sold in seed form, and the resulting plants can be all over the place! Space Queen had a reputation for throwing the most outrageous assortment of phenos- not good if you wanted to run crops off from seed, but acceptable if you had intended to pick a favorite phenotype and save her as a mother.

Popular strains that are currently available from seed vendors that are true IBLs include Island Sweet Skunk, Power Plant, and Donkey Dick. The BOG's Bogglegum was so stable at the time of his retirement that it can very nearly be considered an IBL as well.

[melodious fellow]

[quote=stinkyattic]In Bred Line.

Basically, a close group of growers in a certain area passes the same bunch of seeds around for long enough that the strain drifts into something stable and perfectly adapted to the local climate.

/QUOTE]

That is really amazing. Nature is so amazing. Must be wonderful to have a group of local growers! You can just call me Melo if you want Stinky. :hippy:

I am finally high for the first time in a good month or so... :hippy:

Looking forward to your seeing your grow growing more, friend! :hippy:

[stinkyattic]

Melo- sounds good. Yeah, it's nice to have a couple people around to talk shop and compare notes locally. What a great feeling. I can't wait for my peeps to get to try the chocolate cardamom pot truffles I made last weekend! Drool time.

BudGrower- ahhhhh I can't wait to be able to lounge in a lawn chair outdoors at all. It seems so crazy to be doing all this with still a foot of snow on the ground and more falling almost daily... damn that groundhog, lol. I'm waiting for that moment!

[dylan]

Hey nice log Stinky. I just stumbled over here, and it was an enjoyable read. I think I'll be back to check out this forum more often.

About the IBL, that's pretty much what me and a few friends have been doing the past few years, but I didn't know there was a "technical term" for it.....and who said inbreeding was bad j/k

[ProGroWannabe]

Stinky how ya been? Been a while for me @ cannacom. Anyhow, I can't believe you found time to do a log. I'd comment on your grow, but it's just so hard to keep from saying something potentially PUN-ny with you growing Donkey Dick and "Purple Shit".......damnit...'did it anyway

[b0n3ZA]

Lovely looking grow stinky
Will be sure to watch this one!

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Stinky,

I have a coulple of questions for you.

When starting indoors for an outdoor grow what is you lighting schedule?

Also when do you plan on transfering the plants to outside? Cannot picture anytime before the end of April in VT.

[stinkyattic]

Wow thanks guys!

Dylan, when you go out one year to kill males on your seed patch, and discover that suddenly ALL your plants are identical with no phenotypic variation, you may pat yourselves on the back for stabilizing your line. And that's a very cool accomplishment.

PGW, it's real nice to see you again. I hear you've been in touch with a dear friend of mine lately, very cool cat with some real nice genetics.

JerryG, I keep all my veggin plants under 24h of light- EVERYTHING! Moms, clones, rooted cuttings, seedlings, the whole fam damily. There are 3 primary reasons for this:
-I don't have to worry about interrupting their 'sleep' if I want to work in the garden at 4am (don't laugh, it happens).
-It's easy to set the temperature with no timers or heaters or whatever; I just have everything constant and fiddle with it until it is good temps, then walk away!
-The plants have no doubt when it is flower time. Which brings me to your other question...

I'm planning to put everything outside August 1st after a solid 4 days of darkness, the first time in the plants' lives they have EVER seen the dark. This will jump-start their flower cycle and guarantee that they finish by first frost. Also, it minimizes the amount of time they are sitting outdoors vulnerable to deer and scoundrels. We seem to have a nice crop of weed prospectors these days; punk ass motherfuckers whose momma didn't teach them that if you want something, you need to EARN it... they spend the summer scouring the woods for ganja patches and come back just in time to rip them off- usually a week or 2 before the grower would harvest- so the quality is lower but hey, they didn't have to haul water or guano, now, did they? I generally distrust the source of any unripe outdoor I see coming through as product. Chances are, it was stolen. Grrr. Anyway the plants will stay small enough to hide, and by that time of the summer, ripping out noxious weeds is nearly permanent- they are all in flowering mode themselves by then, and don't really grow back that late in the year to choke out your little clones.

[chinacat443]

damn, thats deep.
i live in an area where neighbors and unwanted scoundrels arent very common. snas the deer and rabbits.
that said, as soon as they germ and i plant the lil babies, they go right into the ground with a super healthy mix of compost with regular outside soil and some sphagmum peat moss, maybe some guano. put a lil chicken wire around the bitches and forget about them till october. maybe once or twice a week ill go check on em and pull males when the time is right. sometimes i bring water. but thats it. i let mother nature do her thing.

[Jerry Garcia 2007]

Thanks Stinky!

I do the same with light cycles, only run 2. 1 at 24/0 the other 13/11, I like the extra hour of light

But I never even thought about how you avoid the theivens. Glad I asked.