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    Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran

    Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran
    Jerusalem Post ^ | Feb. 17, 2005


    Posted on 02/17/2005 9:59:20 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot


    President George W. Bush on Thursday addressed the issue of Iran's possible nuclear armament, declining to offer his full endorsement of Europe's negotiations to get Iran to halt its suspected nuclear weapons program.

    He said the United States and Europe share the goal that Iran must not develop a nuclear weapon. Still, he left it up in the air whether he fully supports Europe's approach.

    "I look forward to ... discussing strategies, ways forward with the Europeans to make sure we continue to speak with one voice, and that is Iran should not have a nuclear weapon and how to work together to make sure they don't," Bush said.

    Asked if was concerned that Israel might attack Iran to prevent it from acquiring a nuclear weapon, Bush said Israel is concerned about Iran's intentions.

    "But clearly, if I was the leader of Israel and I'd listened to some of the statements by the Iranian ayatollahs that regarded the security of my country, I'd be concerned about Iran having a nuclear weapon as well," Bush said.

    He said Israel "is our ally and in that we've made a very strong commitment to support Israel, we will support Israel if her security is threatened."

    Bush spoke at a news conference where he announced that John Negroponte, the US ambassador to Iraq, would be the first US director of national intelligence, the powerful overseer of all 15 intelligence agencies.

    In addition, Bush said Syria was "out of step" with other nations in the Middle East and said the United States would work with other countries to pressure Damascus to remove its troops from Lebanon.

    Bush said he did not know if Syria was involved in the assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri.

    "I can't tell you yet," Bush said. "I don't know that. I'm going to withhold judgment until we know what the facts are."

    Bush said he would consult with allies about Syria when he visits Europe next week, and said the United States supports an international investigation of Hariri's assassination.

    The United States has withdrawn its ambassador to Syria, Margaret Scobey, and that "indicates that the relationship is not moving forward," the president said. He said Syria was "out of step with the progress being made in the greater Middle East."

    The United States expected Syria to find and turn over former supporters of Saddam Hussein's regime and send them back to Iraq and stop supporting terrorism, Bush said. He said Syria also must comply with UN resolutions calling for it to withdraw from Lebanon. Syria has 15,000 troops in Lebanon.

    Looking ahead to his European trip, Bush said he knows that some allies think that his only concern is national security, and he said that national security is at the top of his agenda.

    Yet, he said, "We also care about hunger and disease. We care about the climate."

    Many allies are upset with the United States for refusing to approve the Kyoto climate treaty.

    "They thought the treaty made sense," Bush said. "I didn't." He noted that the Senate had voted 95-0 against the treaty. Yet, Bush said there were other ways to deal with the problem of global warming and that he would talk with allies about new technologies to deal with the issue.
    Torog Reviewed by Torog on . Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran Jerusalem Post ^ | Feb. 17, 2005 Posted on 02/17/2005 9:59:20 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot President George W. Bush on Thursday addressed the issue of Iran's possible nuclear armament, declining to offer his full endorsement of Europe's negotiations to get Iran to halt its suspected nuclear weapons program. He said the United States and Europe share the goal that Iran must not develop a nuclear weapon. Still, he Rating: 5

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    Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran

    Howdy Y'all,

    Normally,I remove the name of the one who posts an article at FR,but I left it this time,because it was posted by a pilot in the IAF. He and his fellow soldiers in the IDF,are very glad that Bush came out and clearly stated the US position..it has raised moral in the IDF.

    I don't know why,but there are some here,who believe that a fundy,violent,Islamic regime,is preferrable over a democratic goverment..your wish will not come true..Iran and Syria,are going to change-or be destroyed..it's really that simple. If either is foolish enough to attack Israel,not only will they have to contend with Israel-but the US,as well. If Iran uses a nuke against Israel,which they are foaming at the mouth to do,Tehran,Damascus and Beirut,will be turned to glass..maybe even Cairo..they all want the destruction of Israel-despite what they say.

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    Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran

    Isreal shouldn't exist. After WW2 we basically went in and created it, though you never hear anybody mention... Why does nobody talk about this? Could it be the cause (or at least the begining of the cause) of this world wide animosity towards the US? I think so... for you Steppenwolf fans, they put it right:
    Our cities have turned into jungles
    And corruption is stranglin' the land
    The police force is watching the people
    And the people just can't understand
    We don't know how to mind our own business
    'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
    I see a red door and I want it painted black / No colors anymore I want them to turn black / I see the girls walk by dressed in their summer clothes / I have to turn my head until my darkness goes

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    Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran

    there are lots of causes of the worldwide animosity towards the US...but those in power are using our country to spread an empire, while bringing down our standard of living and turning us into a police state homeland security dictatorship.

    here in the belly of the beast though, a lot don't seem to mind.
    down with censorship! - http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

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    Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran

    i have to agree with PH on this one!all the signs seem to be pointing in that direction
    [QUOTE] Everything\'s impossible until it ain\'t-Ben Hawkins

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    Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck268
    Isreal shouldn't exist. After WW2 we basically went in and created it, though you never hear anybody mention... Why does nobody talk about this? Could it be the cause (or at least the begining of the cause) of this world wide animosity towards the US? I think so... for you Steppenwolf fans, they put it right:
    Who is it that you mean when you say "we"? We the US???

    "Isreal shouldn't exist."

    Why not? If Israel should't exist, does that mean you think the US shouldn't exist also? What about Canada? Mexico?

    "though you never hear anybody mention"

    I have heard a lot about it, and I do believe it was the british that had the biggest hand in creating Israel. Not the US, as you seem to believe.

    "this world wide animosity towards the US?"

    When you say world wide, is it really muslim wide your thinking of? Why would a NK commi care about US ties to a jewish state? If there is animosity towards the US over israel, then it's coming from islam, not the world.

    Toker

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    Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Libertarian Toker
    I have heard a lot about it, and I do believe it was the british that had the biggest hand in creating Israel. Not the US, as you seem to believe.
    israel was created by the united nations, although the land of palestine was a british possesion prior to it being given to the jews sort of as a sorry to them about the holocaust.


    Quote Originally Posted by torog
    I don't know why,but there are some here,who believe that a fundy,violent,Islamic regime,is preferrable over a democratic goverment..your wish will not come true..Iran and Syria,are going to change-or be destroyed..it's really that simple. If either is foolish enough to attack Israel,not only will they have to contend with Israel-but the US,as well. If Iran uses a nuke against Israel,which they are foaming at the mouth to do,Tehran,Damascus and Beirut,will be turned to glass..maybe even Cairo..they all want the destruction of Israel-despite what they say.
    its never that simple, palestinians have more of a right to the land than israel, they were the ones forcefully removed from it when the israeli state was created. but of course after being there for a little over 50 years israel and israelis born there after its formation have claim on the land. give gaza and westbank to palestine and israel the rest, thats what id do, proberly wouldnt work but at least it would be a try.

    iran hasnt threatened israel with nuclear weapons, and anyway israel can defend it self they have nukes, thats a good deterant.

    side note-torog i doubt you'd give a shit about israel if its existance didnt conform to some bullshit regarding the bible and christs second coming. what better way to fulfill prophecies than knowingly to.

    i love your christian sentiment about love when your practically ejaculating at the thought of a nuclear holocaust in heavily populated islamic countries.

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    Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by juggalo420
    i love your christian sentiment about love when your practically ejaculating at the thought of a nuclear holocaust in heavily populated islamic countries.
    I don't think he sees the hypocrisy in that.

    Who decided we have to defend Isreal to the death? This is all a result of a guilty conscience after WW2. In the 30s and early 40s, the US cared so much about Jews that they did absolutely nothing to prevent Hitler from killing 6,000,000 of them. Now, since most of the survivors moved to the US, well, feelings of guilt kicked in and they felt they had to 'help' Jews at all costs, including destroying another people's homeland (palestinians). Sure, terrorrism sucks, but ask yourself why it began, then you can begin to try stopping it.

    A guilty conscience is not a guide to good politics, it only leads to bigger disasters.
    Peter: [writing letter] Dear MacGuyver, Enclosed is a rubber band, a paper clip, and a drinking straw. Please save my dog.

    :stoned:

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    Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by F L E S H
    I don't think he sees the hypocrisy in that.

    Who decided we have to defend Isreal to the death? This is all a result of a guilty conscience after WW2. In the 30s and early 40s, the US cared so much about Jews that they did absolutely nothing to prevent Hitler from killing 6,000,000 of them. Now, since most of the survivors moved to the US, well, feelings of guilt kicked in and they felt they had to 'help' Jews at all costs, including destroying another people's homeland (palestinians). Sure, terrorrism sucks, but ask yourself why it began, then you can begin to try stopping it.

    A guilty conscience is not a guide to good politics, it only leads to bigger disasters.

    damned if we do damned if we dont

    lets see,,,america let hitler kill 6 million did we,
    fuck you
    america saved the world in WW II from hitler musalini *however spelled)and tojo,germany italy and japan,the bad ass axis powers of world domination
    so that shit dont fly here.
    if isreal and palestine would STOP THIS RELIGIOUS WAR
    peace would be had,
    but one wants the other DEAD and the other wants to no be dead
    so they shoot and kill and blow each other up,OVER GODs rules,
    sad shit
    sad days for the world

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    Bush: We will support Israel if her security is threatened by Iran

    Fuck you NowhereMan.

    You know, all I do is post my opinion and you come out and insult me.

    Did the US do anything to stop the Holocaust before 1943? If they did, I'd like to know. Did the US try to do anything about what was going on in Europe before Pearl Harbor? NO. America didn't give a flying fuck.

    Once again, you fuck off, not me
    Peter: [writing letter] Dear MacGuyver, Enclosed is a rubber band, a paper clip, and a drinking straw. Please save my dog.

    :stoned:

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