Al-Qaeda leaders admit: 'We are in crisis. There is panic and fear'

[Psycho4Bud]

Al-Qaeda in Iraq faces an â??extraordinary crisisâ?�. Last year's mass defection of ordinary Sunnis from al-Qaeda to the US military â??created panic, fear and the unwillingness to fightâ?�. The terrorist group's security structure suffered â??total collapseâ?�.

These are the words not of al-Qaeda's enemies but of one of its own leaders in Anbar province â?? once the group's stronghold. They were set down last summer in a 39-page letter seized during a US raid on an al-Qaeda base near Samarra in November.

The US military released extracts from that letter yesterday along with a second seized in another November raid that is almost as startling.

That second document is a bitter 16-page testament written last October by a local al-Qaeda leader near Balad, north of Baghdad. â??I am Abu-Tariq, emir of the al-Layin and al-Mashahdah sector,â?� the author begins. He goes on to describe how his force of 600 shrank to fewer than 20.

â??We were mistreated, cheated and betrayed by some of our brothers,â?� he says. â??Those people were nothing but hypocrites, liars and traitors and were waiting for the right moment to switch sides with whoever pays them most.â?�

Assuming the two documents are authentic â?? and the US military insists that they are â?? they provide a rare insight into an organisation thrown into turmoil by the rise of the Awakening movement. More than 80,000 Sunnis have joined the tribal groups of â??concerned local citizensâ?� [CLCs] that have helped to eject al-Qaeda from swaths of western and northern Iraq, including much of Baghdad.
Al-Qaeda leaders admit: 'We are in crisis. There is panic and fear' - Times Online

Looks like we got the bad guys on the run.....remember that when ya vote! Why let some asshat fly a white flag when we're on the way to victory?

Have a good one!:s4:

Psycho4Bud Reviewed by Psycho4Bud on 02-11-2008. Al-Qaeda leaders admit: 'We are in crisis. There is panic and fear' Al-Qaeda in Iraq faces an â??extraordinary crisisâ?�. Last year's mass defection of ordinary Sunnis from al-Qaeda to the US military â??created panic, fear and the unwillingness to fightâ?�. The terrorist group's security structure suffered â??total collapseâ?�. These are the words not of al-Qaeda's enemies but of one of its own leaders in Anbar province â?? once the group's stronghold. They were set down last summer in a 39-page letter seized during a US raid on an al-Qaeda base near Rating: 5

[benvortec]

Looks like we got the bad guys on the run.....remember that when ya vote! Why let some asshat fly a white flag when we're on the way to victory?

:rambohead: POW! POW! Hell yea kill em all! :rambo: AHAHAHAHA... no but seriously that's bad ass the strongest world in the nation only took 5 years to get a bunch of guys "on the run" in a country that didn't even have any kind of army, navy, or air force! :wtf: If anything the fact that it has taken this long should just go to show you that even when we sacrifice billions and billions of dollars and thousands of lives that we still can't even beat a bunch of sand gangsters! :smokin: We'd be screwed if we were facing a real advicary.

[Markass]

Al-Qaeda in Iraq faces an â??extraordinary crisisâ?�. Last year's mass defection of ordinary Sunnis from al-Qaeda to the US military â??created panic, fear and the unwillingness to fightâ?�. The terrorist group's security structure suffered â??total collapseâ?�.

These are the words not of al-Qaeda's enemies but of one of its own leaders in Anbar province â?? once the group's stronghold. They were set down last summer in a 39-page letter seized during a US raid on an al-Qaeda base near Samarra in November.

The US military released extracts from that letter yesterday along with a second seized in another November raid that is almost as startling.

That second document is a bitter 16-page testament written last October by a local al-Qaeda leader near Balad, north of Baghdad. â??I am Abu-Tariq, emir of the al-Layin and al-Mashahdah sector,â?� the author begins. He goes on to describe how his force of 600 shrank to fewer than 20.

â??We were mistreated, cheated and betrayed by some of our brothers,â?� he says. â??Those people were nothing but hypocrites, liars and traitors and were waiting for the right moment to switch sides with whoever pays them most.â?�

Assuming the two documents are authentic â?? and the US military insists that they are â?? they provide a rare insight into an organisation thrown into turmoil by the rise of the Awakening movement. More than 80,000 Sunnis have joined the tribal groups of â??concerned local citizensâ?� [CLCs] that have helped to eject al-Qaeda from swaths of western and northern Iraq, including much of Baghdad.
Al-Qaeda leaders admit: 'We are in crisis. There is panic and fear' - Times Online

Looks like we got the bad guys on the run.....remember that when ya vote! Why let some asshat fly a white flag when we're on the way to victory?

Have a good one!:s4:

so what happens if those sunni's we armed and trained end up turning on us..? Another surge???

[psteve]

CIA propaganda.

[Psycho4Bud]

:rambohead: POW! POW! Hell yea kill em all! :rambo: AHAHAHAHA... no but seriously that's bad ass the strongest world in the nation only took 5 years to get a bunch of guys "on the run" in a country that didn't even have any kind of army, navy, or air force! :wtf: If anything the fact that it has taken this long should just go to show you that even when we sacrifice billions and billions of dollars and thousands of lives that we still can't even beat a bunch of sand gangsters!

Well, I'm sure that the Brits felt the same way during the Revolutionary war. Since we do have them on the run it's not the time to withdrawl troops.....keep on the offense and let the Iraqi's take over control of the Provinces as we clean them up.

so what happens if those sunni's we armed and trained end up turning on us..? Another surge???

IF they were to turn on anyone it would initially be the Shi-ite. I really think that they've had enough of the killing though. When they side with the so called infidels against Muslim brothers that should be a statement in itself.

Have a good one!:s4:

[Fencewalker]

Assuming the two documents are authentic

And therein lies the rub....

Until some kind of independent (outside of the government) verification happens, I will file this under the other "truths" of this administration:
"Iraq has WMD's"
"Iraq was involved with 9-11"
"Mission Accomplished"
"You're doing a great job, Brownie"
"Our children is learning"

[benvortec]

Well, I'm sure that the Brits felt the same way during the Revolutionary war. Since we do have them on the run it's not the time to withdrawl troops.....keep on the offense and let the Iraqi's take over control of the Provinces as we clean them up.

Clean them up? Sounds like we're working towards a genocide! :wtf:
What gave us the right to go over there and "clean them up"? Certainly not the constitution... only a few neo-conservatives and GOD wants us to be there lol I understand what you're saying but if this isn't an indicator that we're not as all powerful as we thought we are i don't know what is... its just pitiful. We've spent billions and billions of dollars to kill off one group of people and arm another... in another 20 years we'll proally have to go clean up some more people after they all corrupt and start using their guns (that we gave them) and power for bad.

[Innominate]

And I'm supposed to assume the war is almost over...

...we'll start another war before finishing the last one.

[Zcomp]

Once upon a time, democracy was a good thing. It was easy to see because Americans were living well.
But with so much discontent in our own system, How can we advocate it to others??
When we are doing great. I will advocate. Until then this is the pot calling the kettle black.
The whole world should live just like us LOL. We've got no place to decide what is "clean".
Country stolen from Native Americans and built on the backs of blacks. How do we still look into the mirror??

[Rusty Trichome]

POW! POW! Hell yea kill em all! AHAHAHAHA... no but seriously that's bad ass the strongest world in the nation only took 5 years to get a bunch of guys "on the run" in a country that didn't even have any kind of army, navy, or air force! :wtf: If anything the fact that it has taken this long should just go to show you that even when we sacrifice billions and billions of dollars and thousands of lives that we still can't even beat a bunch of sand gangsters! :smokin: We'd be screwed if we were facing a real advicary.

Your statement kinda makes me miss the good ol' days. Back when we had the draft.
Would you prefer to have gone in and anhilate the entire population?
Or better yet...do nothing? Just let these extremists blow up people all over the world? Would you give them a hand converting all the world to their version of islamic law? You feel the Taliban is right and just in it's philosophy about women, jews, christians? You may want to brush-up on your sharia law. At least you'll know why they are executing you and your family.
Shariah Islamic Law - The Sharia

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