To the Ron Paul haters

[8182KSKUSH]

^ Wow...yeah he's a nazi and he's racist....

I think he was just joking? Was he?

Fuck welfare and public housing. THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T OWE YOU A DAMN THING. NO WELFARE. NO "free" HOUSING. I am way beyond sick and fucking tired of handing over 30-some percent of my pay check so some fucking asshole can continue on popping out children like a pez dispenser and not working. If you choose not to work you don't get a damn dime. NOTHING. NOWHERE in the constitution, federalist papers, nowhere does it say if you don't work others will pick up the slack.....

Thank you, you can deflect some of the flamers off of my ass, they are gonna be all over you for that one!

This is why the government is ridiculous! Everyone wants a fucking hand out. Apparently no one has any work ethic anymore and damnit, they want their "free" housing and food and healthcare.

YUP.

Get a fucking job people. It's like no one cares about the big picture. Were turning into one HUGE socialist nation b/c of welfare.

Exactly!

I think he was joking about that though!
You are right on, those ARE some of the things that I agree with Paul about. But to a certain extent it is pie in the sky stuff. We have to accept that we already and will probably always have a certain element of the entitlement mentality that will exist here. It is nice though that there are a few out there that understand the bigger picture of what is going on.ostgood:
There isn't anything saying that over time we can't beat it back! I just don't agree that Paul is the man that is going to make any progress with these issues. I really think he is all talk, and at this point it doesn't matter at all. He is not running.
So the ? becomes, will you vote for McCain for the sake of not voting for Billary or Osama? The choice is pretty clear, Billary and or Osama either one will get us going on the fast track to socialism ten fold more than McCain. JMO:jointsmile:

[JayDank]

Probably because he is a racist and nazi sympathizer who only caters to the rich and pot smokers and eliminates the welfare system and public housing all the way.

Racist? Nazi sympathizer? I don't see where you support this information. Please show me what has caused you to believe that Ron Paul is a racist. Has he perhaps made a statement saying that he hates people of color? If so, enlighten me.

As far as a Nazi sympathizer, Dr. Paul is nothing of the sort. I assume you are referring to the situation in which he received a small campaign donation from a white supremacist. I'll let him explain his stance himself:

YouTube - Ron Paul remarks on allegations of being racist

Also, Ron Paul has openly stated that our drug laws target the black race and if elected he would pardon every non-violent drug offender in prison. Does that sound like the stance of a white supremacist to you?

To be quite honest, I can understand why a white supremacist would want Ron Paul to become president. Ron Paul upholds the constitution, look at his congressional voting record. This means he supports free speech. He is the ONLY candidate that I know of that has spoken of the importance of the constitution and free speech. Right now, the only tool that white supremacists and racists in general have is their right to free speech. So you tell me- If you were a white supremacist, and your ultimate goal was to spread your word about the masterdom of the white race, which candidate would you support?

I really feel that the media has put an unfair spin on the story. The donation from the white supremacist means one thing- that he supports Ron Paul. That does NOT mean that Ron Paul supports him. So would you rather have that $500 in the pocket of a white supremacist, who openly supports the oppression of all races but one, or in the pocket of a man who fully supports the constitution, a document that states "All men are created equal..." ? I'm sure if you looked through every single donation given to each candidate, there would be at LEAST one undesirable donation. Is this really what the campaign coverage has come to? Nitpicking through donations to find dirt on a candidate? Then I must say, Ron Paul should be proud that the media had to knock down his supporters to find dirt on him. That must be because he has a pristine voting record.

I find it really discouraging to see that people cannot even have an informed discussion without turning to name calling. It's just fucking immature. KUSH especially. You claim to "tear apart" peoples posts, but you haven't really presented facts.

"Hey, thanks I didn't realize that the Federal Government subsidized commercials on tv for drug companies. I don't watch much tv though. And when I do it has little to nill influence on me at all, even those hypnotizing government sponsored pharmaceutical ads. I think what you just said says a lot about you.!"

Ever hear of the FCC? I think I heard somewhere that they REGULATE TELEVISION AND PRINTED MEDIA. And as far as I've seen, they haven't done much regulation of the pharmaceutical industry. Or Alcohol and big Tobacco either. Interesting...

[BlueCat00]

I like Ron Paul. I think the other republicans treated him like shit during the debates. He should have run on an independent ticket and I think he would have done better.

Ron Paul's heart is in the right place. He just ran on the wrong ticket!

But I am voting Obama.

[8182KSKUSH]

Yeah golly gee, I really like Ron Paul, you know his strict views on LIMITING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT,
But I like Osama Hussein too. You know the flaming socialist liberal that fundamentally believes in ever increasing government size and influence and interference in the lives of Americans, don't forget increasing taxes and redistributing wealth!

So you can see how I like both of them! That makes perfect sense! Awww, the "young and mmhmm..educated".

[texas grass]

At this point....probably McCain which once again will be a vote for the lesser of the two evils. One of the top things on my chart is the war against terrorism and I feel he's the best "person" for the job. But again, there are things about him that I don't care for either.

Have a good one!:s4:

thats 1 of the problems today, there is no such thing as lesser evil. theres evil and evil. i always heard my father talk about that and look at what happened with bush, he talked a good game and he was the lesser of evil but in reality he has destroyed abunch of stuff.

and terrorism is a false war like the war on drugs. if you support both evil,war on terrorism and war on drugs you are as evil as they are because they have destroyed more lives than they have saved

[sarah louise]

I have just used my own observations and concluded that he is one of those people that is full of shit.

That is one of the most insightful sentences I have ever read. :jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

thats 1 of the problems today, there is no such thing as lesser evil. theres evil and evil. i always heard my father talk about that and look at what happened with bush, he talked a good game and he was the lesser of evil but in reality he has destroyed abunch of stuff.

and terrorism is a false war like the war on drugs. if you support both evil,war on terrorism and war on drugs you are as evil as they are because they have destroyed more lives than they have saved

Between my views and what was offered as far as candidates...it would have been the lesser no matter who won the parties nomination. I'm not saying that Bush is all that but I still believe that between him or Kerry, we ended up with the better.

War on terrorism.....:thumbsup:
War on drugs......:cursing:
Big difference between blowing down a joint as compared to blowing up a building or people.

Have a good one!:s4:

[benvortec]

8182KSKUSH - I hope that any true and knowledgeable Paul supporter will tell you that he won't be able to simply "rub his hands together" and then weed will be legal. What he promises is to limit the federal government and to restore the rights of the citizens in your own state. This is also how he feels about ABORTION which many people see as a major issue. He doesn't want to run your country he wants to let YOU run YOUR country, and that's what i like so much about him. At this point in our "democratic" nation we as individual citizens have lost our voice in big government and he plans to restore the power of authority to the states government in which case people within their own state can come together and choose what they want and don't want to be legal. And if you live in a state that (the majority) doesn't agree with your own personal opinions there will more than likely be a state that you can move to that honors those values.

Honestly though... i don't even see weed legalization or abortion as an urgent topic of discussion. I think what is most important at this point is the status of our economy which government spending and raising taxes won't fix. Personally i don't know how anybody could vote for anyone else just for the simple fact of our economy. When it comes down to it all of the other candidates are just talking jibberish if they're not addressing the real problem which is our economy. It all comes down to the all mighty dollar. Without restoring our economy health care and social security promises are simply a joke because our economy cannot withstand either program. Unless of course you want your income taxes raised %110 or you would like lots of government spending and inflation and our dollar to only be worth 1/2 a Peso! haha :rastasmoke:

Also when it comes down to it we cannot prosper as a country until we get out of a war that we never should have went into and we cannot financially continue the empire building and policing of the world. Eventually whether you believe in karma or not, this will come back to bite us in the ass... it's the blowback affect.
PEACE and i hope this informed some of the misinformed :hippy:

[THClord]

8182, presidents have the greatest power in congress out of everybody with the power of persuasion. And he also proposes the budget. He can cut DEA spending if they don't agree to recategorize MJ. He might have to fight with congress, but presidents have a lot more power than you think.

[gocryemokid]

There were way too many attacks in this thread than necessary. I honestly have no respect for someone that can't calmly express their opinion in a civilized manner and goes off on anyone due to their immediate assumptions based on who they choose to vote for.