WOW! thanks alot

kudos for reading the whole post:thumbsup...then posting it in maspino's...lol). j/k

i agree that most LED grow lights are bunk snake oil, stay away from ebay. the research ive seen on the prototype of these lights have shown they can grow tomatoes just fine(i know, i know).

Lumens however are a stumbling block in this endeavor. we believe that the lumen output is higher in the right spectrum due to how lm are measured and the losses of HID energy to heat.

and there are still people telling us we dont have enough blue for veg...lol

I'm pretty sure that some of the 50 or so theyve sold will go to legal researchers that will get the ball rolling.

thanks again,
Db:smokin: