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02-13-2008, 06:29 AM #1
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...[/quote]Wow you guys took that the wrong way. ...[/quote]
"The most common type of *families* in this world are struggling single mothers, who much better deserve all the resources being squandered on preserving what is the minority, nuclear families... "
Really? Because I quoted you ver batum? Where were you talking about gay marriage? I missed it.:wtf:
...[/quote]I'm trying to establish how the "sanctity of marriage" are never grounds to stand on when trying to suppress gay marriage....[/quote]
Why not? I believe that comes down to "subjective" or philosophical views, are you saying that people that believe in the sanctity of marriage and are opposed to gay marriage can't express or advocate their position because you say so? And why no mention of gay marriage in the previous post if that's what you "meant" Here are your exact words again:
"The most common type of *families* in this world are struggling single mothers, who much better deserve all the resources being squandered on preserving what is the minority, nuclear families... "
...[/quote]The families that John McCain describe are very few ...[/quote]
Really? Is that an opinion, or fact? What is very few? Less than 10%, or less than 50%. Last I checked the majority rules here, if they are such a small minority, then how are they getting their intrests represented in our government? O, I forgot, it's because there is a vast right wing conspiracy to hunt poor people for sport from black helicopters! Silly me.
...[/quote]compared to vast majority of Americans that have grown up in less than "standard" family arrangements, and society is still functioning fine because of it. It's preposterous for McCain to claim that protecting sanctity is important to society, when there is no evidence to support this....[/quote]
No evidence huh? How do you sustain a population without heterosexual procreation? I am so confused? I would also suggest to you that there is plenty of evidence. I think it would be a question of whether or not you would even acknowledge it.
...[/quote]ps. I'm a feminist and a womens studies major and no, the majority of these women that I'm describing are hard-working moms that have to deal with dead-beat dads. I'm not talking about those on welfare....[/quote]
What do you call who much better deserve all the resources, I assume that the "resources" are liberal code for government handouts and redistribution of wealth. If it's not then what are you talking about?:wtf:
Yeah it's all the "dead beat dads fault", the women that choose to concieve children with men like this have no accountability at all they are completely innocent victims huh? And not only that, I should have to give them the money that I earn, lord knows they are more entitled to it, since they can fuck and have kids with no hope of supporting them. Unless you are talking about some super natural occurence when some women becomes pregnant, then I don't feel sorry for any of them. Like I said, don't make babies if you cannot afford to provide for them, and don't expect me or anyone else to provide for you. I work for my family, not yours. If people want to be generous and help great! If some turd in government wants to take my money just because they "think" it's the right thing to do then fuck ya!
"The most common type of *families* in this world are struggling single mothers, who much better deserve all the resources being squandered on preserving what is the minority, nuclear families... "
News to me!!!! Single mothers make up the majority of American households!!! You heard hear first! If we are just going to make stuff up then I say, vote McCain, he has a goose that shits gold eggs!!! We'll be the richest nation ever!!!!
"The most common type of *families* in this world are struggling single mothers, who much better deserve all the resources being squandered on preserving what is the minority, nuclear families... "
Those are your exact words, again, ver batum. Just because you are "hard working" does not mean that you are struggling. Most of the people I know that are "struggling" are so because of their own personal choices, not because of anything that the government did to them. Most people struggle at some point in their lives, the people that perservere are the ones that bust their asses, the ones that don't, look for handouts.
...[/quote]But lets go there: Poor mothers should starve while millions are wasted on a campaign(marriage) claiming something that is not? We "rich" already gave up our tax dollars, I'd rather see it feed people than wasted at this point...[/quote]
So now there is an epidemic of "poor starving single mothers", and the federal government is spending money on "campaigning for marriage"? I would love to see you support either of those claims with facts, not opinions. How many poor single mothers died due to starvation last year? How many millons of dollars did the government spend "campaigning for marriage"? I won't hold my breath waiting for you to support either of those to claims.
"It's preposterous " is about right.:toilet_claw:
Hey rebgirl, if she's a feminist what's that make you?
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