John McCain

[Fencewalker]

Well, I'm a Ron Paul fan but by no stretch of the imagination do I consider him a "front runner".

Boy do I have to differ with your opinion about McCain being a man of integrity and honesty though:

In 1999, McCain was in New Hampshire, campaigning for the GOP nomination as a moderate. He proclaimed himself a pro-life candidate, but told reporters that â??in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade.â?� He explained that overturning Roe would force â??women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.â?� Yesterday, campaigning for the GOP nomination as a conservative, McCain said the opposite.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me ask one question about abortion. Then I want to turn to Iraq. Youâ??re for a constitutional amendment banning abortion, with some exceptions for life and rape and incest.

MCCAIN: Rape, incest and the life of the mother. Yes.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So is President Bush, yet that hasnâ??t advanced in the six years heâ??s been in office. What are you going to do to advance a constitutional amendment that President Bush hasnâ??t done?

MCCAIN: I donâ??t think a constitutional amendment is probably going to take place, but I do believe that itâ??s very likely or possible that the Supreme Court should â?? could overturn Roe v. Wade, which would then return these decisions to the states, which I supportâ?¦. Just as I believe that the issue of gay marriage should be decided by the states, so do I believe that we would be better off by having Roe v. Wade return to the states.

The old McCain didnâ??t want an amendment and didnâ??t want Roe overturned. The new McCain completely disagrees with the old McCain.

Itâ??s worth noting that politiciansâ?? opinions on abortion can, and often do, â??evolveâ?� over time. Dick Gephardt and Al Gore, for example, both opposed abortion rights before eventually becoming pro-choice. With this in mind, McCainâ??s unexpected shift may simply reflect yet another pol whose thinking has changed over time.

Or, far more likely, McCain is once again abandoning any pretense of consistency and integrity, and is now willing to say literally anything to win.

Letâ??s return, once again, to McCainâ??s flourishing flip-flop list, which is now a Top 11 list.

* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as â??an agent of intoleranceâ?� in 2002, but has since decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans â??deservedâ?� the 9/11 attacks. (Indeed, McCain has now hired Falwellâ??s debate coach.)

* McCain used to oppose Bushâ??s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending â??dirty moneyâ?� to help finance Bushâ??s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June, he abandoned his own legislation.

* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.

* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.

* McCain gave up on his signature policy issue, campaign-finance reform, and wonâ??t back the same provision he sponsored just a couple of years ago.

* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now heâ??s pro-ethanol.

* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

* And now heâ??s both for and against overturning Roe v. Wade.

Source.

[Zimzum]

hmm...

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And from McCain during his 2000 presidential run:

"I hate the gooks," McCain said yesterday in response to a question from reporters aboard his campaign bus. "I will hate them as long as I live."

Funny the MSM didn't mention this when they had a hard on for the old Ron Paul news letters...

[angry nomad]

I didn't care for his amnesty bill that he co-wrote with Ted Kennedy.

[eg420ne]

Ol john 'the songbird' Mccain he's our man to follow up on bushes corrupt ways....hey, John was born in Panama, wouldnt that make it illegal to become prez or was Panama a state of the USA..

[eg420ne]

I think you are right to a large extent. My biggest fear is that Osama will get the nom and beat McCain handily, as you said "the contrast between them is striking" and that has shown in the past to be a decisive factor. "JFK?" All that being said, I don't think your fellow dems are going to allow that to happen. Not this time around. I really HOPE that Billary gets it, like I said, landslide victory for McCain, who is by far and away a better choice than that :tin foil hat:

Osama??....nothing like a good ol repuke talking point...........but Billary sounds right....

[Fencewalker]

Ol john 'the songbird' Mccain he's our man to follow up on bushes corrupt ways....hey, John was born in Panama, wouldnt that make it illegal to become prez or was Panama a state of the USA..

Some might define the term "natural-born citizen" as one who was born on United States soil. But the First Congress, on March 26, 1790, approved an act that declared, "The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens of the United States." That would seem to include McCain, whose parents were both citizens and whose father was a Navy officer stationed at the U.S. naval base in Panama at the time of John's birth in 1936.

Washingtonpost.com: Political Junkie

[8182KSKUSH]

If it is a choice between McCain vs. Billary, which I still think will happen, I don't see how anyone could not vote for McCain.
Again, if it's between McCain vs. Osama, I don't see why anyone would vote for Osama. His positions on the war, and the economy aren't any different than Billary. Just a different sac of skin. He may actually be worse than Billary on policies. Don't get me wrong, I like him, he seems like a nice guy, but I don't agree with his core philosophy of where he thinks America should go. Of course I realize that "all the young and educated" are going to be voting for him. (Laughable)

As a side note, I think that it is going to say alot as far as how many "Ron Paul" supporters shift to Osama. Obviously core supporters that are intrested in his constitutional philosophy will not, but I bet those supporters of his are a small minority.:thumbsup:

[rebgirl420]

Regarding all these candidates of "hope" and all of the educated and young people are for him,

If your not a liberal when your young you have no heart

If your not a conservative when your older you have no brain.






All that glitters is not gold people.

You can't put glitter on a turd and call it a diamond. It's still gonna have a stink.

[Zcomp]

In McCain's defense he was attending the CPEC conference today in DC. Could be a reason why he didn't vote. Paul, Hillary, and Obama have missed some votes as well being on the campaign trail.

You should watch your cspan channels. They can vote by proxy, which is exactly what hillary has done as far as I've watched.
The choice not to vote is a conscious one.

[BlueCat00]

McCain drug policy so far...it will only get worse if he is elected.

Mexico should extradite drug dealers to the US

McCain lauded the Mexican president's cooperation with America in drug prosecutions. "He's a good man," McCain said of Felipe Calderon. "For the first time in history he extradited drug dealers to the U.S." Source: Campaign website, John McCain 2008 - John McCain for President, "News: Mexico" Mar 19, 2007

McCain: "This administration is AWOL on the war on drugs"

Of the four major candidates, McCain has expressed the most hawkish positions on drug policy. He wants to increase penalties for selling drugs, supports the death penalty for drug kingpins, favors tightening security to stop the flow of drugs into the country, and wants to restrict availability of methadone for heroin addicts. He said the Clinton administration was â??AWOL on the war on drugsâ?� and he would push for more money and military assistance to drug-supplying nations such as Colombia. Source: Boston Globe, p. A21 Mar 5, 2000


Q: How do you reconcile the tolerance for alcohol with the intolerance for marijuana?
A: I canâ??t support the legalization of marijuana. Scientific evidence indicates that the moment that it enters your body, one, it does damage, and second, it can become addictive. It is a gateway drug. There is a problem in American with alcohol abuse, and thereâ??s no doubt about that. We have to do whatever we can to - prevention, education, and that applies to drugs too. Source: Republican Debate at Dartmouth College Oct 29, 1999

Oh wow he thinks its an additive gateway drug. LMAO what a loser!



Weâ??re losing drug war - just say no

Weâ??re losing the war on drugs. We ought to say, â??Itâ??s not a war anymore,â?� or we really ought to go after it. And there was a time in our history when we werenâ??t always losing the war on drugs. It was when Nancy Reagan had a very simple program called â??Just Say No.â?� And young Americans were reducing the usage of drugs in America. Source: Republican Debate at Dartmouth College Oct 29, 1999


Restrict methadone treatment programs

McCain introduced the â??Addiction Free Treatment Actâ?� (S.423), which prohibits the use of funds for any drug treatment or rehabilitation program that uses methadone or other heroin detoxification agents unless the program follows specified guidelines, including that the program has as its primary objective the elimination of drug addiction and that it conducts random and frequent comprehensive drug testing for all narcotics. Source: Senate statements S.423 Feb 11, 1999

Stricter penalties; stricter enforcement

• McCain supports the following principles concerning illegal drugs:
• Increase penalties for selling illegal drugs
• Impose mandatory jail sentences for selling illegal drugs
• Impose capital punishment for convicted international drug traffickers
• Strengthen current laws dealing with non-controlled substances, including inhalants and commercially available pills
• Increase funding for border security to stop the flow of illegal drugs into the US