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Scientest that claim man made global warming is real. Of course, they recieve government funding, their jobs depend on it.
There are a lot of scientists involved in studying climate change who have no stake whatsoever in a particular conclusion. My father is not a climate scientist and was not involved in the global warming debate, but he was involved in one of the longest running ocean surveys in the world. The survey began 50 or 60 years ago or more when the California anchovy fishery collapsed and has gatherd temperature data and ocean chemistry data for that entire time in a consisitent area off the CA coast. The research had nothing to do with global climate change but the data do support it.

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Politicians that claim man made globla warming is real. Of course, their jobs depend on people to "need" them, create a climate of fear then make yourself the crusader of justice to find the solution.(Al Gore as well as many others) Increase taxes to subsidize scientest to solve a problems that humans have no effect on!:wtf:
Politicians often do exploit fear to get what they want. For example, some politicians exploit the fear of terrorism to curtail our constitutional rights. Other examples of fear mongering include political claims that environmental protections will hurt our economy. Environmentalists want us all to live in the cold and in the dark!

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The liberal news media, obviously contradicting what the "truth" is would make their political favorites look very, very bad.
The liberal news media is a myth.

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Peoples that live in 3rd world countries that may be forced to continue their lives without the advent of modern technology for the sake of "saving the earth". Most 3rd world people are not going to be buying solar panels for their grass and manure huts. I forsee a time coming soon when they will not be allowed to use certian things that many of us take for granted because they "hurt the environment". Remember when they stopped spraying DDT because it was so horrible? Yeah, is it worse than malaria, or west nile?
Actually many of the "green" technologies are some of the best solutions for poor people around the world. For example, many people too poor to have access to lighting after dark are begining to user solar powered LED lanterns. Many of the power technologies are much more protable than fuel-powered generators, and after they are purchased they have almost no ongoing cost for maintenance, and none for fuel.

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Just ranting though, you never know you may be right dragon.
Maybe I am just a cooky right wing nut job.:jointsmile:
Uh, mmmmmmmaybe....

Ha ha!

The biggest stakeholders in terms of money are the industries who have a vested interest in the status quo. Oil and coal companies. Car companies. Transportation companies. Much of the sceptical blather comes from these sources. It's very short sighted. In the early 70's "energy crisis" American auto makers refused to offer more fuel efficient cars, and the Japanese came in and ate their lunch. They never recovered the market share. Same thing is happening again today with the hybrids. It's happening with the energy efficient appliances. I don't see why these lazy-ass industries don't do a better job of seeing these kinds of changes as an opportuntity to get out in front of the curve. The fact is that even if you ignore global warming, our fuel costs are just getting higher and higher, so switching to greater efficiency is going to be the more affordable choice over time. Maybe market forces will save the world.