View Poll Results: Is global warming a real "man made" condition?
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02-07-2008, 05:29 AM #1
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Global Warming?
So, what do you think. Man made disaster that's destroying our planet, or maybe if you would prefer, an American made disaster?
Or, bullshit?
My vote is for bull shit.:thumbsup:8182KSKUSH Reviewed by 8182KSKUSH on . Global Warming? So, what do you think. Man made disaster that's destroying our planet, or maybe if you would prefer, an American made disaster? Or, bullshit? My vote is for bull shit.:thumbsup: Rating: 5
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02-07-2008, 10:21 PM #2
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Global Warming?
The instability is the greatest concern.
Originally Posted by McLeodGanja
Complex systems like climate are always variable within a certain range. They have a certain amount of chaos, but also a kind of order that brings them back to predictable "averages," or equilibrium. So, for example, you might know that a certain area is good for growing corn on average --- you might have good years and bad years, but on average it's pretty reliable. When a complex system gets an outside input, like extra CO2, it can often maintain it's stability up to a point. But if the input grows too big, it reaches a tipping point where the feedbacks do not pull it into equilibrium any longer and there is a period of extreme chaos. Generally the system will eventually settle into a new equilibrium, but not the same one as before. Our challenge will be to survive the chaotic period until the new equilibrium is reached. There is likely to be unsettled weather for years which will result in crop failures, flooding, drought, and wildfires. If it is bad enough, then part of the chaos will be be the social chaos as we deal with stravation and displaced refugees. This holds true even if the warming is not manmade.
And, yes, you will see the north pole melt within your lifetime. It is only a few years away.More of the same: Renger\'s Rantings
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02-07-2008, 05:39 AM #3
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Global Warming?
here's hopin its bullshit:jointsmile: Georgia's winter is pretty much non-existent now though. 70's in february is just ridiculous.
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02-07-2008, 05:44 AM #4
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Global Warming?
It's a natural occurrence for our planet. However, also take note of the changes that are taking place elsewhere in our solar system. (The melting ice-caps on Jupiter's moon.)
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02-07-2008, 05:51 AM #5
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Global Warming?
Not just Jupiter, each planet in our solar system has shown an incrimental increase in relative temp. Unless someone can explaing how people are causing that, simplest explanation seems the most logical, might have something to do with the GIANT BALL OF FIRE IN THE SKY!!:jointsmile:
Originally Posted by Innominate
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02-07-2008, 06:07 AM #6
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Global Warming?
Random articles about global warming were pulled from 983 peer-reviewed scientific articles, and NONE of them question its existance.
Yes, temperatures (along with CO2 levels) naturally fluctuate. However, 2005 was the hottest year ever recorded throughout this planets entire history. Surprisingly enough, it is also the year with the highest CO2 levels ever recorded. It is also a well established fact that greenhouse gases absorb infrared radiation from the sun, and trap it in the atmosphere.
Once again, global warming's existance is not disputed (even though the politicians may suggest it is :thumbsup
Do some research.
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02-07-2008, 06:18 AM #7
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Global Warming?
I think the "cause" is what is at question. How do you account for "solar system warming"? 2005, hottest year recorded, what percentage of the earths climate history has been offically recorded? Hottest year since they started recording? All living organisms aside from plants, exhale CO2 every time they breath?
Originally Posted by r0k
By the way, I could easily post many many articles that dispute WHY global warming is happening. I guess it comes down to whether or not one would care to read them.
And from what I see, most politicians accept the myth blindly on both sides of the isle for fear of political suicide if they question it.
So I say to you, do some research!:thumbsup:
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02-07-2008, 06:29 AM #8
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Global Warming?
Global Warming is real, and it is man-made.
We know for a fact that human activity has altered the compostion of the earth's atmosphere by removing carbon from under ground and adding it to the air in the form of CO2 --- that fact is not in dispute by anyone, not even those who doubt the end result of Global Warming. The only dispute is whether that extra CO2 can actually alter the climate. Most scientists say it can, while others say it is unproven.
I think it can alter the climate, and it has already begun to do so. It is possible to measure the historical concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere going back hundreds of thousands of years, and it is also possible to measure the historical temperature. Those measurements have shown that periods of higher CO2 concentration have corresponded to periods of higher temperature and vice versa. Those measurements also show that the CO2 concentration has spiked up in less than a century to the highest levels in the record. The temperature is begining to catch up to the rapid CO2 spike, and I think it will result in rapid and upredictable climate change.
BTW, 8182KSKUSH, if you want real responses to your survey, you should try not to build a bias into the answers. If you want it biased toward your own way of thinking, leave it as is.More of the same: Renger\'s Rantings
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02-07-2008, 06:45 AM #9
OPSenior Member
Global Warming?
Fact is co2 levels spike in relation to temp increase, but not as presented in that propoganda film. CO2 levels increase AS A RESULT of temp increase, they don't cause the increase. Can any of the believers explain how we are warming our entire solar system? It's a natural occuring event. How can multiple periods of warming and cooling be explained that pre-date the modern industrial age?:wtf: Please someone explain how WE are warming all of the other planets in our solar system!
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02-07-2008, 06:58 AM #10
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Global Warming?
This is not intended to be an unbiased survey, remember I openly stated that I think it's bull shit!:thumbsup:
Seriousely I will sell anyone that wants them some carbon offsets, c'mon it will make you feel good!
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