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02-06-2008, 09:32 PM #37
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Obama's church
Good example, however if your parents were unaware this was going on, (the church wasn't preaching on the matter) and the church doctrine didn't mentioned the associations...then yes. I'd say that is a different story altogether. Would sound to me like a leader had his own agenda. Not all churches are on the up-n-up, but this does not mean they are all secretive and malicious.
Originally Posted by dragonrider
I believe strongly the UTCoC is troubling at best.
Only comment to that is that there were no gay leaders when I was a scout.
Originally Posted by dragonrider
No, but pedophilia is not a part of catholic church doctrine.
Originally Posted by dragonrider
Nope, just like Obama, can't control the childhood past. Had he remained or joined later in life, then yes, I'd assume him to be a nazi.
Originally Posted by dragonrider
It's not part of the church doctrine, so no.
Originally Posted by dragonrider
How can Obama disavow a church he has devoted twenty years of his life to? Were my pastor to come out and tell us Osama Bin Laden was coming on Sunday to offer advise on empowerment, his (our pastors') would be the next funeral. (in a matter of speaking, of course)
Originally Posted by dragonrider
I'll bet there are at least a couple of christians that could have given the interview, without having a black militant reverend with a pention for hating whites, jews and America, speaking to my congregation. Wouldn't take me long to change my affiliation, and I'm not even running for office.
making them part of the posse (security) doesn't count, lol. Sorry, couldn't help it.
Originally Posted by dragonrider
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