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    #11
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    Obama

    It won't matter what I say you buzz kills will just come up with more chit it's all sour grapes for you...all negative.
    Obama has managed to get HUGE numbers of young people to the polls. NEVER in history has this many people come to a primary caucus.
    We have had to change our venue 2 times to accommodate all the people coming to the caucus meetings. NEVER has there been such an interest in politics by young people and you guys won't even give him credit for what he is doing... Even the talking heads at fox had brains enough to admit this man has made a huge difference in American politics.

    SO many people in this country have felt betrayed by their government they lost their faith in the system but Obama has changed that. He is uniting people and what he is doing is working. Look at the crowds dude I suppose EVERY ONE ELSE is wrong and you guys know it all...

    keep talking though... your words will be here for all to see FOREVER as history is being made you can tell your grandchildren how you didn't participate, you were against Obama.. you missed the boat. LMAO

    The torch has been passed to the young people of this country and I for one know that they will do a hell of a better job than the idiots in charge now...Si Se Puede

    AS I SAID if he voted present on any bill it is because he did not agree with aspects of the bill and IF CHANGED he would vote YES. He has explained this several times.

    Spin that however you like..the rest of the country is listening to Obama

    In 1998, Obama was one of only three senators to vote against a proposal making it a criminal offense for convicts on probation or on bail to have contact with a street gang.

    In 2001, Obama voted against a measure that would have expanded the penalties for some gang activity to include the death penalty. The bill was vetoed by then-Gov. George Ryan (R ) not long after he had issued a moratorium on the death penalty in the state.

    Obama, at the time, said the bill would unfairly target minorities, stating, ??There??s a strong overlap between gang affiliation and young men of color ? I think it??s problematic for them to be singled out as more likely to receive the death penalty for carrying out certain acts than are others who do the same thing.?


    On a 1999 vote making adult prosecution mandatory for aggravated discharge of a firearm in or near a school, the senator voted ??present.?

    He explained the vote, saying, ??There is really no proof or indication that automatic transfers and increased penalties and adult penalties for juvenile offenses have, in fact, proven to be more effective in reducing juvenile crime or cutting back on recidivism.?

    And in 2001, Obama voted ??present? on a bill that would increase penalties for trafficking in Ecstasy and other designer drugs.

    The senator questioned the length of some drug penalties when compared to other crimes, noting that selling 15 tablets of Ecstasy was a Class X felony, as was raping a woman at knifepoint.

    He did not vote against the bill because he felt there needed to be higher penalties for dangerous drugs but he did not vote for it because the penalties they wanted to inflict were to severe. I don't know how to make it any plainer. If you don't understand this issue it is because you don't want to..As I said BUZZ KILLS. You ain't bringing me down :rastasmoke:

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    #12
    Senior Member

    Obama

    Oh and about the official language being Chinese...it was the BUSH/CLINTON dynasty that sold us out to the Chinese.

    Obama has said we need to stop sending jobs to China Stop importing Chinese toys and make China adhere to fair trading practices so I don't know where you are even coming from with that statement.

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    #13
    Senior Member

    Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueCat00
    Oh and about the official language being Chinese...it was the BUSH/CLINTON dynasty that sold us out to the Chinese.

    Obama has said we need to stop sending jobs to China Stop importing Chinese toys and make China adhere to fair trading practices so I don't know where you are even coming from with that statement.
    So he's anti-chineese? What about other countries, Taiwan? So Barack believes that the government should control and regulate the PRIVATE BUSINIESSES? Wow, sounds like a winner to me, thanks for proving my point!:thumbsup:

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    #14
    Senior Member

    Obama

    Yeah Dude he's anti Chinese you run with that one.
    Knock yourself out. :wtf:

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    #15
    Senior Member

    Obama

    What planet do you live on I'm just wondering. Our government gives incentives for businesses to move overseas..

    Our government regulates private businesses NOW.
    You have no point you are just an old grouch.

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    #16
    Senior Member

    Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueCat00
    The senators you should be bitching at are the ones that don't even bother to show up!
    You mean like the 30% of the time he had a "NV" in Senate? 117 times not voting out of 387 bills is a crap record.......try to get away with them figures in ANY other workplace.

    Have a good one!:s4:

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    #17
    Senior Member

    Obama

    So now are we going to go over all the bills and see how many times each senator was NOT present...because that is the only fair way to judge this. Dole, McCain, Haskell they all have plenty of days they were not there. You are grasping for straws here and I really don't know why. What is it about Obama that intimidates you so much?

    Stick to the real issues at hand like you did with the perfect president thread.

    EWWWW I am not going to vote for him he was absent...:wtf:
    there wouldn't be a candidate clear to run at all if we used your litmus test.

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    #18
    Senior Member

    Obama

    How about his plan for the pulling out of Iraq. He stated that the "majority" of troops would be pulled BUT we still had to leave enough troops to guard 100,000 U.S. civilians, our Embassy and Iraqi nationals that were loyal to us. How many troops are going to be more/less left behind. Want to see more U.S. soldiers getting kidnapped, etc....leave them there with a skeleton force.

    His plan for early pull-out reminds me of Catholic birth control.....pulling out early may work for a while but not for long.

    Have a good one!:s4:

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    #19
    Senior Member

    Obama

    Yet another good reason why he shouldn't be President:

    Democratic pollsters Stan Greenberg and James Carville issued a direct warning on the driver's license issue in an analysis last month designed to guide Democrats through the treacherous immigration quagmire.

    "The findings about driver's licenses are particularly notable," they said. Two-thirds of surveyed voters oppose them, the pollsters found, and the safety argument fails to dent the widespread conviction that granting a driver's license rewards illegal behavior.

    But it will definitely work with Latinos, said John Trasviña, president of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund. "Clinton and (Sen. John) Edwards have said no driver's licenses for unauthorized immigrants," Trasviña said. "Sen. Obama has said you get a driver's license if you know how to drive. And that message I think will resonate in the Latino community as we get closer to California."
    Obama takes big risk on driver's license issue

    2/3 of the country is against this!!

    Have a good one!:s4:

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    #20
    Senior Member

    Obama

    Blue I think you are the only one that is grumpy. I am sorry it upsets you when poeple challenge what you say or flat out don't agree with you. I hope someday you will see the light.:thumbsup:

    It's ironic that people that support libs tend to be the least tolerant people.

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