The Great Depression the New Recession Alcohol and Cannabis

[ncnavguy]

All the talk about a looming reccession Stimulus Packages and rebates gave me pause to look back at history. Reccesions and Deppresions are cyclical things that have always been apart of american history. Looking back at the the great deppression of the late 20's and 30's people faced dire times where drought ruined the midwest, banks were not trustworthy and businessmen where leaping from their skyscrapers. They people of america maintaned their resolve and government created jobs through large civil engineering projects such as the hoover dam much of the modern interstate system and a ship building industry grew in the looming shadow of a war with the Axis powers of the world. But alchol served as a savior for the nation as well. Legalizing alchol did two things. First it took the power from violent gangs and bootleggers, It reduced the taskload of an overworked FBI and most importantly with excise taxes it provided a booming and legitmate industry that helped america pay for the great damns highways and ships that employed much of our country's disenfranchised. Now we face the shadow of Reccession and perhaps more where people are loosing their homes, China is selling us twice as many goods than we are selling them and loaning us the me money to pay for it. I say that legalization of marijuana could provide and income that the goverment to start new green civil projects. Instead of roads, windmills, instead of ships solar panels, and instead of interstate systems, cars that don't need gasoline to drive. How many people would be glad to pay taxes on a marijuana purchase if they knew it went to building a greener more sustainable tommorrow.

ncnavguy Reviewed by ncnavguy on 01-28-2008. The Great Depression the New Recession Alcohol and Cannabis All the talk about a looming reccession Stimulus Packages and rebates gave me pause to look back at history. Reccesions and Deppresions are cyclical things that have always been apart of american history. Looking back at the the great deppression of the late 20's and 30's people faced dire times where drought ruined the midwest, banks were not trustworthy and businessmen where leaping from their skyscrapers. They people of america maintaned their resolve and government created jobs through Rating: 5

[Psycho4Bud]

I agree with ya.......they'll eventually catch on that history is repeating itself once again. :thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

[stinkyattic]

Good points and good posts!
I want to see a new version of the Civilian Conservation Corps. That would be a fantastic way to get a bunch of long-overdue public works maintenance done right, as well as providing good jobs for troops who have just returned from war.

[Innominate]

I couldn't have said it any better than "Cannabis Across America," which I've said before...and I believe it will increase the personal feelings of each other's lives and I think Americans deserve that.

You proved an excellent idea, it makes me happy. :jointsmile:

[dragonrider]

This cannabis abolition is causing the same kinds of social costs that alcohol abolition caused. It funnels money into an organized black market, and there is so much money involved at the higher levels that it fuels violence and corruption. I agree totally that if the government were to legalize it and tax it, they would free up police who now waste their time pursuing cannibis users, growers and dealers. And the revenues would be enormous --- we'd probably balance the budget in the first year. I don't know that it would bring about a new utopia, but it would be a step in the right direction!

[denial102]

a really good idea, but i did laugh "Creating a greener future" come on that is worth a giggle or two

:hippy:

Denial

[dragonrider]

a really good idea, but i did laugh "Creating a greener future" come on that is worth a giggle or two

:hippy:

Denial

Haha! How did I miss "greener future"? That's a cornball pun that's right up my alley!

[Purple Banana]

This cannabis abolition is causing the same kinds of social costs that alcohol abolition caused!

At first I thought you said "abortion" haha...

But yeah, this is a great idea... Depsite the dispensary raids, which will hopefully be under full control soon, the past 8 years we have seen pretty big milestones towards cannabis decriminalization. Look at the recent threads for the vending machines despite the raids. That's probably going to leak into the pharmaceutical field as well.

There's been a dramatic increase in cannabis-related medical and social studies; protection of the myelin sheath, protection against gliomal cell cancer, reduced risk of athereosclerosis, Alzheimers, lung cancer, pain managment, help with depression... Shit, just ask Granny Storm Crow, and she'll give Wikipedia a run for their money :thumbsup:

Hopefully with a new presidency, we'll see some more spotlight shone on medical mj (and hopefully my state will soon join the 11; right now it's a 100 dollar fine and a misdemeanor with a doctor's recommendation)

Maybe they'll legalize the mass production of hemp, at the very least. I'm not saying hemp is going to save us, nor lift of economic state up, but it certainly wouldn't hurt.

[ANAVRIN RX]

oh man thats a beautiful thought!, i think we have some loops to jump through, at least with acceptance.

[thcbongman]

This cannabis abolition is causing the same kinds of social costs that alcohol abolition caused. It funnels money into an organized black market, and there is so much money involved at the higher levels that it fuels violence and corruption. I agree totally that if the government were to legalize it and tax it, they would free up police who now waste their time pursuing cannibis users, growers and dealers. And the revenues would be enormous --- we'd probably balance the budget in the first year. I don't know that it would bring about a new utopia, but it would be a step in the right direction!

i agree.

However, there is no incentive for legalization. Miami is a great example. Before smugglers discovered Miami and Florida, it was nothing but retirees. Since smugglers used it as a haven, the Miami economy was built up on drug profits. While many places suffered in the recession, Miami was recession-proof. It didn't matter if it was legal or not. Money was to be made.

Legalization would improve the social situation. There would not be violence, and they'd be oversight on distribution, but economically, it wouldn't make a difference. Revenue is revenue. Drug dealers have to spend their money somewhere and it goes back into the economy anyway. The government loses a windfall in taxes, but they have plenty of incentives to keep it illegal. The law enforcement industry is profitable, and they'd do anything not to lose any funding. The legalization of marijuana is dangerous to them, it'll cost them jobs.

If the government of the United States were truly free-market, they'd tear down the barrier of entry to the hemp and marijuana industries. It makes sense on so many levels, but the economic incentive is not great enough to do so. Money talks, bullshit walks.