Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
I'm pretty sure that I never said that I have the evidence...I was simply asking to be provided the evidence for some of the outrageously paranoid and naive statements.
But frankly...this sound like all the other conspiracy theorists psychobabble. Irresponsible and immature. Or not...whatever.

Meanwhile...I grow my pot, help others, and will vote for the most qualified. Kinds sucks we come from a different philosophy...but I'll never dance to the beat of your drummer.:jointsmile:
To each his own, brother. We're all the same. Sorry, I know you didn't claim to have any evidence... I just wanted to ask some questions, because I was wondering why you're okay with the possibility of the government spying on you. I am certainly not okay with the possibility of them listening on my conversations, and spying on me, even if I am doing nothing wrong. It's just the thought that I cannot talk to a friend in privacy, without Big Brother listening in on my conversations. This isn't conspiracy theory, but rather conspiracy. The evidence is *right there* (the bill). This isn't about stopping terrorists, it's about power.

If you look throughout history, you can see that there are always would-be dictators trying to make power grabs... either by a coup d'etat, or by using the law to subvert the law. And unfortunately, from my point of view, I see this happening here in America. Now, don't get me wrong, I am not saying this is all Bush's plan. The plan is crafted and carried out by modern-day aristocrats. Yes, they still exist... and likely, they will never go away. There is always a struggle between liberty and oppression. Correct history is probably the best way to predict future events without having using some sort of method of telepathy. No, this is not psycho-babble: it's evidence, shown right in this thread, that there is a lack of care for our civil liberties. Is that not something to be worried about? When will you be worried, when (or if) a police state or military state becomes apparent in this country? Or is that necessary to thwart terrorism that has been around for a long, long time?

If so, when will our civil liberties be returned? When this "war," with no end in sight, ends? When we conquer the whole middle-east? Deep thinking and critical analysis really helps--but of course, they don't want you to do that, or you may end up with a conclusion which exposes their plans.