Quote Originally Posted by Innominate
You've never heard of the Patriot Act? And law enforcements can now "legally" listen to everyone's phone calls as they wish and you cannot interfere.
Anyone can listen to your phone calls, it's called a scanner. No it doesn't scare me a bit. You can also do this with a cordless phone by unplugging the base and powering on the handset.

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Iraq, a disaster. Are you willing to back it up?
Yeah, I love this one, yes Iraq, and my relatives that live there today, are better off! It's not perfect there, but it's alot different now that the people there do have hope, and can live more freely than they ever have. Again that is a great example of a country where if you voiced any dissenting political opinion you, and your family could pay the ultimate price as many did. And yes, the world is better off, but I am sure that if you had it your way, Sadam would still be in power correct?

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As for corporate dominance, I suggest you really examine how advertising and commercialism has affected popular self-esteem. Food, alcohol, cigarettes, cars, sex, sports, and sensationalism. When these subjects bombard our lives, we tend to become accustomed to it.
If you let those things affect you then too bad, they don't affect me. And I am fairly certian, that you will see these things in most modern countries. I don't believe these are uniquely American, maybe in the 60's, but not today. Been to Japan lately?

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The industries profit off of your desires and your lack of knowledge.
OK... that sounds really cool I guess whatever that means, again you are a.s.s.uming alot about someone you don't know, me.

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If people were informed they would not eat food that isn't good for them, drink or smoke poison, or suffer from an eating disorder because they don't look like the people they see.
Wow really, you gonna stand by this? Ok, here goes, as far as I know, you are free to choose what you eat, drink, or smoke. Last I checked, the government of this country doesn't force anyone to eat McDonald's every meal. I could be wrong though.:thumbsup: I also didn't realize the goverment was responsible for eating disorders, thanks for clearing that up. So in under developed 3rd world countries at least they don't have to worry about self image problems since they are sucking sand and eating rocks and don't have access to cable t.v.!:thumbsup:
That is why America is scary. We have no right to truth. [/QUOTE]

Quote Originally Posted by Innominate
I don't need to goto a Ron Paul website to tell you any of this. You seem more interested in post wars than talking about the truth.
No not at all, I am just not going to let someone get away with spouting rhetoric that you can find on any leftist run website, and since this is a free country I am going to challange your points. And by the way, "If people were informed they would not eat food that isn't good for them, drink or smoke poison, or suffer from an eating disorder because they don't look like the people they see.".
that's really specific!

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You're not providing me with any valuable information about why America is the "greatest" civilization in the world. A few relief programs does not match up at all. .
Believe me, I don't need to convince you, hopefully you will move to one of the 100s of other countries that you believe is better than ours, guess the grass looks greener on the other side huh? You are a "true believer", one day you will wake up. I am just taking this oppurtunity to blow you out of the water so that maybe some other sheeple that read this say "hey maybe the black helicopters really aren't trying to get me." And really quickly I can give you 37.9 million reasons why this is the greatest country on earth.

"The nationā??s immigrant population (legal and illegal) reached a record of 37.9 million in 2007. " Center For Immigration Studies
That sure is alot of misguided people that are not from here, that obviously according to you come from "other countries in the world that hate america?" Someone better tell them how scary it is here! And how much better they would have been to stay in their home country huh?:thumbsup:

I know pictures might be easeier to understand so here you go. Look at all the people year after year that just have no idea that they are creating a WORSE life for themselves and their families because they choose to leave their spectacular countries! You haven't actually backed up anything that you have said. You have yet to post a single fact, and are really spewing nothing but leftist propoganda. Don't worry though, I know there are lots of sheeple that share your opinion here, and I am sure they all think you are really smart!:jointsmile:

Quote Originally Posted by Innominate
Sorry Kush, I'm not playing this game, you will have to do your own reading.
You mean you don't want to play because you can't provide any facts to back up what you say. I just gave you 30 something millon reasons why I think this is the greatest country on earth, and those are just the people that came to the "Promise Land" this year! I don't think you really know what scary is.