Nothing about my buds are pathetic...even the "popcorn buds" get you high. Every bit of concentrated light helps in my opinion, especially if you have the means to recirculate the air and keep temps where you want them. Soon I'll be experimenting with C02 again, and may have to remove some of the lights due to heat restrictions. We'll see. The HID is going to be air-cooled, so maybe I'll still be able to use them.

By the way, your posts seem familiar. Have you ever posted here before, possibly under a different name?