Quote Originally Posted by Humboldt215
This story from AP, well it comes from a few different places and originates with.... Mr. George Soros.

Might as well jump on the Alex Jones bandwagon.


Bush has fucked us up bad and is bankrupting the country. But the above article is NOT accurate.

Here is the story and the link backtracking the source.




Well, the AP has done it again. They have given us leftist propaganda and painted it as news. This time they have published the results of a "study" that claims that "Bush lied" in the run-up to Iraq and somehow the AP forgot to mention that the organization that released this study was funded by extreme leftist George Soros, who has spent billions funding the Democrat Party and many far left think tank and advocacy organizations. Yeah, THAT study is going to be legitimate!

This one may as well have been just a reprint of the press release of the Soros-funded Center for Public Integrity, but the AP dressed it up as an actual story written by reporter Douglass K. Daniel. Headlined "Study: False statements preceded war," the AP reveals how, "A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks."

What the AP forgets to mention is that the "two nonprofit journalism organizations" can hardly be imagined to be impartial. The Center for Public Integrity (CPI) is funded by well-known leftist, George Soros, as well as the Streisand Foundation, the Ford Foundation, and the Los Angeles Times Foundation -- all of which are exclusively leftist in political philosophy. Even more ridiculously, the second of these "non-profit journalism organizations" shares most of its board members with the first. So, the Fund for Independence in Journalism can hardly be considered a separate entity from the CPI.

The AP merely spews the claims form this study as if they are real news, but much of the APs story is disingenuous as is the "study.":

"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al-Qaida," according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism staff members, writing an overview of the study. "In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003."

Two things here. First, few people now think Saddam had WMDs, of course. But nearly everyone thought he had them before we went into Iraq -- including the leadership of every nation on the planet as well as Saddam's own generals. So, it was not a "lie" if it was commonly thought to be true by nearly every head of state in the world. That Saddam had WMDs may have been a mistaken notion, but it was not a lie before it was known for sure!

Secondly, it is interesting that this "study" claims that Bush "lied" about links with al-Qaeda. Yet even they have to massage that claim of a lie into "meaningful ties to al-Qaida." This means that even they are admitting that there are ties with al-Qaeda but that they aren't "meaningful."

Does that mean the "lie" is not that the ties exist but how "meaningful" they are? Instead of a lie we are squabbling over semantics. In essence, Bush DIDN'T lie about ties to al-Qaida, the is just a debate on how "meaningful" those ties are.

In these very first two instances, Bush's "lies" turn out not to be lies at all.

The New York Times also regurgitated this "study" without bothering to disclose that it was funded by some very left agenda-pushing folks, but the Times does have one interesting line...:

There is no startling new information in the archive, because all the documents have been published previously.

So, the question remains, why is this such big news, then? Why did the AP and the NYT rush to report a story that has "no startling new information" in it?

Was it just a new chance to say, "Bush lied, people died"? It must be because there isn't any real news here.

Finally, it is also interesting to note that the database of "Bush lies" does not notate the context of those "lies." How many of them were widely believed by Democrats and Republicans alike at the time, but were proven later to be less than true? A statement given that is thought to be true (even if it turns out untrue later) is not a lie. It is just mistaken!

Regardless, that neither the AP nor the NYT revealed the leftwardly, partisan financial backers of the so-called "non-profit journalism organizations" behind this "study" is unforgivable.




AP Reports 'Bush Lied' Study Funded by Ultra-leftist George Soros | NewsBusters.org
The miscalculation of how tight this connection was between Al-qaeda and Iraq justifies the Bush administration to go to war? Woohoo.

Did everyone forget UN inspections were underway before the lead-up to invading Iraq? That Saddam turned over documents, and allowed them to visit the sites they were used to be produced in? Did everyone forget about Colin Powell presentation to the UN Security council? How there was ample proof that there were mobile trailers running around Iraq producing WMD, even nuclear bombs. Satellite imagery, the accusations that Saddam-led Iraq posed an imminent threat. I like the vocabulary they used. It could happen at any moment, whether one second or a billion years from now, any moment now.

I'm not saying the war was wrong. I agree with the war from an economic perspective. Bush pulled it off effectively as an econonic stimulus. I believe it was his real intent. The world after 9/11, a recession, Bush needed to prop up the economy and Iraq provided a great economic opportunity. He needed to come up with a diversion to prevent everybody from selling securities, leading to an economic crash. His administration exaggerated the threat of the claims to sell the war. Anyone who denies this has already forgotten the events that led up to Iraq.

Bush wouldn't receive the majority of the guilt, he left most of the puffery to Cheney, Powell, Rice, Ari, Rumsfeld and John Ashcroft.
thcbongman Reviewed by thcbongman on . oh the lies, the lies Study: False statements preceded war By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks. The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the Rating: 5