not doing much orienting? lol....we have to move the plants like 3 times a day...they follow the light no matter where you put em...i got six tops coming out of an 8 in plant...all the same height...sounds like decent light orientation to me...but what do i know....
as far as seedbanks go..i would never order from the "cheap" places...they make imitations of the same strains you read about...there are only a few seedbanks i would order from...i paid 400 dollars for 10 jack herer seeds, not even feminized...but i got them at sensi seed bank, the company that made jack herer....sure you can order jack for 150, but i wouldnt bet on it being jack...IMHO
we follow the fox farm chart dodo...but we add a lil extra until we see them acting like its too much...no problems yet
opie...i pulled a few leaves off today to let some of those side branches out...have pics up for ya in a day or 2...:thumbsup:
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and maspino, we talked about the cree 14w kits a while back...definitely getting some for the next grow:jointsmile: