LED growing- An instructional grow log

[dankleader420]

i made a new post about it, but my bad, i have a big computer screen so i didnt realize it was that big. lol. how should i close it off? cuz i dont have the money for those lights. im stickin with the fluorescents. im not using the whole closet, just that shelf.(closed it off with a blanket, but idk if that does anything) how much do the CFLs cost? and what wattage should i get?

[Opie Yutts]

tis good rock. i think somehow our grow thread has merged with the LED imput please thread:wtf3:

Sorry SnS, I didn't realize it would be a problem. I'll do things differently now.

[Opie Yutts]

right on man.

the flux capacitor bong always works best for me :smokebong:

What were you thinking man? 75 million gigawatts?

[Opie Yutts]

...know you have been trying to find stuff out, just tryin to give you facts, and not opinions. that why it took my a lil time to answer stuff.

I appreciate it very muchly nicely. My input will be in the other thread now, unless it pertains specifically to your grow.

[Opie Yutts]

how did you get that pic in there with only 5 posts?

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...0212081129.jpg

[DoDoFoShoDoe]

Stealth,

I have been watching your log from the get go and just wanted to say your doing a great job. Since stretching seemed to be one of the main issues it looks like youve dodged that bullet very well. Ive been trying to learn a lot of information pertaining to LED's and their effectiveness in growing marijuana and this log has helped a lot.

Keep it up bro!:thumbsup:

dodo

[intheattic]

Ok, so I'm new to this thread. New to the forum, new to growing so I'll just introduce myself and give my two, maybe three cents.

Right now Im on my second grow, first isnt quite done but the second is well underway!!! My setup includes 250 Mh and 200W of T5 and a sep room with a 400 Hps. Currently I'm running over a dozen strains of genetics that are being cloned in a aero cloner. Only in my wildest dreams had I ever imagined I would have such a setup but I was very fortunate to get connected with some very talented growers who gave me all the genetics and have provided much appreciated mentoring.

Living in the northwest can get fucking cold!! I have to run two 1000 W heaters 24 hours a day just to keep my soil from freezing. Calculating it all out I spend like 70-90 bucks a month for this shit!! There must be a better way. There is a better way... L.E.D.'s !!! Duhn duh da daa!

Within the next month I plan to be converting to a full led setup. Hot, big, bright, expensive ass ligts, I don't think so. Not in my house. Not any more.

So, like many of you I have been researching the subject like crazy and feel like Im finally beginning to get a grasp on it. I have found a few LED manufacturers who produce LED in practically ANY wave length from mid 200's up through the 700 nm range. They also manufacture tons of different styles of bulbs, 5mm's 10mm 20mm!~! all different shapes, high outputs... whatever, they make it.

I haven't decided exactly what my LED renovation will consist of but I will have 430 nm ultra blue combined with 450-470 nm blue with a tad of 640 reds veging my plant. As with all artificial lighting there are downfalls and if LED has any they seem to be in flowering. Penetration seems to be the biggest issue LED growers have when flowering there plants so with excessive lighting I will resolve this. 50 watts of 650 nm reds combined with 50 watts of slightly higher 680 red. A tad of 465 nm blues and maybe even those T5's and I think Im covered. I was also thinking about rope light. Stringing LED rope light made with 650 nm lights in something like a tic tac toe pattern or grid thats low enough for the plants to grow up through..??? Could work. It would solve the issue of insignificant light penetration. I understand that sometimes plants leaves act kinda funny when they come into contact with LED's, twisting around and such, but that it isnt harmful to the plant, just a reaction to the over abundance of light. They dont know which way is up because the light seems to come from all directions.

Ok, thats quite enough. I'll probably start another thread just like this as soon as my LED's come.
Great thread though,
Later.

[Opie Yutts]

Penetration seems to be the biggest issue LED growers have...

That's because LED grow light manufacturers put only two colors in their arrays. WRONG. Plants need all the spectrum, and green will help enormously with penetration.

Oh yeah, Hello and welcome. Nice to have you along and looking real forward to seeing your set up. Personally, I would make your own arrays, or have someone custom make them, or wait about 3 years for LEDs. There is soooo much manufactures are leaving out of their arrays at this point. Sure they grow weed, but for that price they should do a much better job.

[intheattic]

Thanks for the welcome. I was actually planning on making my own arrays, most liking using those higher intensity bulbs. About the green light you recommend for penetration... any more insight as to why it is more effective? Also I have read that supplimenting your plants with green light is useless. Plants are green, they are green because they reflect green light not absorb it. Thats my understanding but of course I could be wrong. Any thoughts? Also, the lighted grid idea. Pointless, or potential?

[Opie Yutts]

Green light has many more uses than to bounce off plants. Every color of the spectrum has uses. (Not all 16 billion or whatever, but I think you know what I mean.) Green light is what penetrates the canopy. Without it only unshaded leaves and buds will be getting much, if any light. So I suppose if you are doing a lollipop-type grow, you wouldn't really need green. For all of us others, it would be beneficial. Besides, it helps the plants look like they should too (green not purple).

I used to believe the myth that green light does nothing, just because that's what everyone said. Well once I started reading actual things about botany and not just a weed forum, I started actually learning something about what plants need.

I think the grid idea seems like a good idea if you use a whole bunch of ropes. I don't think those normally have high power LEDs in them. Also, I would want some way to either raise and lower the plants or the rope grid, so it could stay near the top.