LED growing- An instructional grow log

[maspino1]

k, stealth, i've got a few simple questions that i know you got the answers to

1)in your opinions and experiences, what's the smallest space could the procyon fit into without overheating
the enclosure
2)how much did indooragriculture charge you for shipping
3)how fast was shipping and the quality of the delivery package

[SnSstealth]

k, stealth, i've got a few simple questions that i know you got the answers to

1)in your opinions and experiences, what's the smallest space could the procyon fit into without overheating
the enclosure
2)how much did indooragriculture charge you for shipping
3)how fast was shipping and the quality of the delivery package

the 2 easy ones first
2) $22 flat rate ground fedex, had other faster options but due to sending 3 were hundreds$$
3) I talked to the guy at IA (i know obsess much...lol) he got em in on thur. shipped fri. arrived wed. high quality package in plastic bag w/ foam peanuts in box. I think the most danger they were in was my nervous hand w/ the knife opening the box

and 1) i'd say at least 2'x2'w/ good upward venting. the fan on top runs about 15-20 cfm off the top and cools it ok. you can put your hand flat on the glass after long run times and its just warm. just have enough height for 16" plus above plants as any closer seems to slow growth. a good constant flow of 2° cooler than the wanted temp. seems to work for us as long as the a/c kicks in on a regular basis

dank they hang easily as they're weighted well w/ two hook points in the middle. ohh.. and.. ahh they're ...$600

[Opie Yutts]

Don't have a lot of answers for you. Little confused about the ones that got mold or bacteria, or whatever. I thought everything was fine and healthy. Why would some get it and some not? Why did you trash them instead of spraying a little antifungal on them, then fixing the circumstances that caused it (ie. lack of air circulation near that area?)?

About the lack of stretching, plants stretch when they are shaded or tricked into believing they are shaded. I have no idea what's happening, but who knows what hell breaks loose when mad scientists break new ground and play God. Normally plants want the whole spectrum, since all colors interact and regulate. But couldn't the lack of stretching just be because you are growing indica types? Jack Herer = Indica??? Hybrid? I kind of like the fact that mine are short and bushy instead of tall and lanky. Isn't it easier to work with them that way?

[maspino1]

umm... ok, i thought i had read your entire log twice at least
did you already mention that too close and it slows growth??
because maybe that's why my puny plant isn't growing any bigger because the furthest
the lights are from it right now since germination is like 4-5 inches...
what's your input stealth?

[Opie Yutts]

Well I'm not stealth, but I do know that the closer you put your lights to the plants, the faster they will grow. When the light is farther away, you will see more stretch, which you may misinterpret as more growth.

[SnSstealth]

Sorry I forgot the word "vertical" in that sentence. they had alot of underbrush and sidebranching which is what we wanted, then when we raised the lights 6" two days ago they they started growing vertically again. Opie was right, just gotta find the sweet spot too match your strains wants and needs.

I'm not so much worried about intensity w/ your panels as I am that being so close the lights cant blend together and you get spots of light. seemed like when i put my hand too close it got "spoty".

Ill let whiskey answer your other ? opie

Doughboy:smokin:

[SnSstealth]

see if i can answer some stuff...first opie, i threw them out because they were 3 1/2 in as opposed to 7 1/2 on the rest. they only had 4 sets of leaves, as opposed to 7. they kinda just pissed me off, looked differant, so i killed em....kinda like the 60s?...lol....j/k no one get mad....anyway
yes opie, i love the fact im getting all bush growth, but JH is mostly sativa...bubbleberry is mostly indica, so maybe its leaning towards that side...alll the rest of the plants are uniform....started the CO2 today because of the temp issue...needs to get hot here again!!!!

maspino, i dont mean to be rude, but i think your isnt growing because your using those china panels. they dont have the right frequencies, and, the colors dont blend really...they stay spotty due to weak bulbs and no reflection. the glass under the LEDs in the procyon sends the light out at angles...some are turned slightly too... the procyon can get CLOSE...i was only 9 in away when i was making them branch out...went back out to 18 in to start vert growth again.....opie is right, the closer the better growth...side growth went nuts...but vert growth will stop, aat least with these lights. and what the hell is a plinom baffle? other than that, good luck man, need more LED growers!!!

:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[physicsnole]

you get spots

What if I make all the colors random (well not random but evenly mixed). Do you think that will solve the problem with? Or do you have to have a diffuser? I think if just mixing them will do the job then its better than a diffuser because the diffuser reduces effeciency (amount of light getting to the plant), however it does lend the colors perfectly so all the plants would get equal ratios of light.

Green light is what penetrates the canopy. Without it only unshaded leaves and buds will be getting much,

The green light penetrates the canopy because the plant reflects the green light. But what if the plant was surrounded in the LED's....like a tower of LED's between plants so the plant gets even more light...do we still need green then? Also Opie did you ever post that link to the website with all sorts of plant light info?

[DoDoFoShoDoe]

If you dont mind me asking really, what part of florida are you from? I also live in the sunshine state pretty far north.

Cant wait for pics!

doDo:jointsmile:

[physicsnole]

tallahassee. cold here now...like 30 deg this morning