LED growing- An instructional grow log

[maryvv22]

I appreciate your taking the $$, time and resources to try this new approach. I will be looking forward to seeing what kind of results you get. I think you are getting a lot of unnecessary heat in thread. Just keep on truckin....LOL. :hippy:

[SnSstealth]

in the most respectful way..... there's 1 or 2 LED theory threads. this is not one of those. we ARE using LEDs...kinda moot point to theorize about it now huh.... now i see what ya meant WH, about keeping certain things in the correct threads....trust us, we got yelled at for it...lol.

answering question 34486: (welcome back cture)
i noticed the few mutations too, but doesnt seem to effect them at all...got one plant that has 2 sets of 1 leafs...maybe its in the F1. i have had small mutations in leaves many times before, didnt seem to effect the over all product...just a few less leaflets on some leaves....as far as i know, through all the growing IVE done, leafs forming not perfect is fine, have a few almost every garden
BONG!!!!!!!!! thanks for the imput guys
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whiskeytango

[Opie Yutts]

Ya, Sorry about the wall of text! Hey ... Hey what did I do wrong? When I typed you that reply, I had it all seperated ...in different paragraphs and when I submit it , It ran everything together?

I've got a good idea what's happening. Not sure, but a good idea, since a very similar thing happens to me. I don't get it really, but it must have something to do with how different word processors function in regards to automatic web page stuff. When I type something on my laptop in MS Works word processor, then copy and paste into the reply box, everything looks like it should. Paragraphs are separated properly. On the other hand however, when I compose something on my desktop computer, I normally use MS word. (Yeah, I know, sorry for supporting Microsoft. I gave up my soul and things are still Fd up.) If i don't add an extra "enter" before I start a new paragraph, the same thing that happened to you, happens to me. For some reason it all strings together like yours did. Sometimes I'll be with it enough to remember the extra keystroke, and others I've luckily previewed and fixed it before submitting.

[Opie Yutts]

OK, Believe it our not but I understand your story. Put it this way, you have heard older growers say that when they use a MH to flower they get more potent smoke and more trich. In my maddness its the ultra violet through blue that the extra energy is coming from. With that said when we are using the HPS solo its more in the orange to red. Thats why you always here when they mix the MH / HPS in flowering they have a better finish. When HPS is alone its to high in the spectrum and thats where the extra energy is lost. The reason the HPS gets any results is the high output of lumens. Is that definition any help. Have we made a break-through? Maybe so maybe no? My patient are like a virtue! WE will keep tring till we get it staight. What's the dill with the headaches? High blood pressure, sinus? Man that sux! Later

Ah the friggen headaches. Got my record yesterday, 6 days straight fluctuating in and out of migraine territory. Nobody can tell me why I have them, including the time I was 12 years old and they stuck the needles under my scalp and hooked me up to some machine (EEG - Electro Encephilo Gram)(sp?)

Well at least I think we're getting closer. I understand that there is a lot of wasted light when using HID. But wasted isn't really that bad, it's just... wasted. If you have enough money and don't care much for the environment, "wasted" is just fine. "Lacking" on the other hand certainly is not, and that's where LED lighting systems are right now. In order to be completely as efficient as possible, the're going to need some of those Q and S wavelengths.

I think what threw me off track is you said that by not using the lights that waste light, we will be getting extra energy. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure now that you didn't exactly mean that.

[Opie Yutts]

LED's are more efficient than light bulbs!

Aaaaahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrhrhrrhrrrrrrrrhrrrrrrrrr rrrrrggggggghhg! (sp?)

[Opie Yutts]

Could it be that "light 1" sends out much higher photon levels of A and Z so much so that they compensate for Q and S?

I'm pretty sure that would depend on several things, such as wattage, dispersal angle, and distance.

Just a second, heat affects resin greatly. How about the heat from HIDs prematurely destroying some CBs and Trichs? I mean just the mild heat created by pressing affects the outer crystals.

OK, but for the purposes of my discussions, unless stated otherwise, I'm leaving the heat factor out of it. I'll assume everyone has the proper ventilation for whatever light they're talking about.

[Opie Yutts]

I think you are getting a lot of unnecessary heat in thread.

I hope you're not thinking some heats been from me. I've wished him every bit of luck possible since before you guys were a gleam in your daddy's eye. Someone has to not get all LED-giddy if we're going to succeed in this endeavor, and I do take issue with people stating things like "LEDs are more efficient", or "LEDs generate extra energy", as a matter of fact, without a couple side by side photos or a couple of numbers or something to back it up.

[MVP]

Man I had it all seperated and in paraghraphs. Sorry it put it all together, anyway there is some good info in there from start to finish. Later

Ah, gotta love that 'Preview Post' button, don't ya? Keep on trying the explanation, we'll get it eventually....:jointsmile:

[Weedhound]

ok two things.....

Exactly how many people are "transmitting" under Stealth's name here. So far I think there is ....3??

Also this thread has become QUITE the discussion booth so bet NOW you wish everyone would stay off your thread right? Well you asked for it....so there.

[SnSstealth]

there are just 2 of us,,,whiskeytango and doughboy...and i dont really feel like we are getting "too much heat"... its supposed to be open for debate, discussion, ranting.....just not straight nay-saying, (deja-vu?) and that even only happened once....and no opie, dont feel any heat, flak, bad juju from you...we actually appreciate having (hmmm...wording) knowledgable people to go through this...its needed to have devils advocate, the other side....shirts and skins to get a proper grow. otherwise we wouldnt be on here yeah? Im glad that there are this many people interested in this, for or against.
so yeah, again, keep coming with the bellybuttons everyone, otherwise this would be boring...
bongggggg......
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whiskeytango