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01-18-2008, 02:38 AM #1
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Old Man Newbie Clone Problems
Hi All
First attempt at cloning and I got a problem.
Cuttings are a week old, soil PH 6.8, 4X100watt CFL, temp 75 deg. medium is jiffy peet pellet, rootone rooting hormone.
Medium is wet always.
Any Idea what's making them bleach out ? :detective1:
Looks like a neut. burn or something, but shouldn't be.
At this point should I just water with PH adjusted water or some type of nutrients? :i feel stupid:
Thanks for any input I may recieve.Dreadscale Reviewed by Dreadscale on . Old Man Newbie Clone Problems Hi All First attempt at cloning and I got a problem. Cuttings are a week old, soil PH 6.8, 4X100watt CFL, temp 75 deg. medium is jiffy peet pellet, rootone rooting hormone. Medium is wet always. Any Idea what's making them bleach out ? :detective1: Looks like a neut. burn or something, but shouldn't be.:eek: At this point should I just water with PH adjusted water or some type of nutrients? :i feel stupid: Rating: 5
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01-18-2008, 03:11 AM #2
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Old Man Newbie Clone Problems
1) lights appear close to a foot away. they should be only inches from the leaves.
2)no humidity domes. get a big clear plastic try or cups overtop so that the plants will have absurd amounts of humid air to suck up.
3) for future, the bulbs are 100w EQUIVELENT, they use 23-26w by brand. saves confusion with the high-output ones.
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01-18-2008, 03:30 AM #3
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Old Man Newbie Clone Problems
Thank you hybridlove420 for the quick reply.
I have a humidity dome, I removed it for the photos.
Will get clones closer to light source.
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01-18-2008, 04:22 AM #4
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Old Man Newbie Clone Problems
It's best not to give people advice when you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
Originally Posted by hybridlove420
Dreadscale - take all the lights out of that cab except for one bulb. have it about 8" - 12" above your dome.
Why are you watering the cuttings? The cuttings have no roots - what are they supposed to do with the water? Keeping the peat pellets wet will do more to cause the stem to rot than anything else. After you have the cutting in the pellet, mist the pellet every 2-3 days to keep it moist - that's all you need. Peat pellets, in my opinion, suck. But some people swear by them so :wtf:. I use Clonex and a drop of Superthrive for cloning in Rapid Rooters with a pH of 5.6. Don't give any nutes right now... they have no roots to drink the nutes. Mist the inside of your dome and keep the environment humid.
PC :smokin:
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01-18-2008, 05:47 AM #5
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Old Man Newbie Clone Problems
ostgood:Thank you PharmaCan
Makes sense to me, no roots :i feel stupid:
I should have known about the lighting, Stinkyattic mentioned in another post about too much light on clones.
Thanks Again!
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01-18-2008, 06:27 AM #6
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Old Man Newbie Clone Problems
Dreadscale - You're welcome - I'm glad I could help. I like to emphasize the "no roots" thing to people who are new to cloning because, when you start thinking in those terms, it makes your course of action much more clear.
PC :smokin:
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01-18-2008, 08:21 AM #7
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Old Man Newbie Clone Problems
PC already covered everything relevant, so I don't have much to say. The problem was most likely related to the large amount of light in the area; your cuttings will still process all of the light they receive. Combine that, with the NO ROOTS (as PC emphasized) to uptake nutrients, and the plant catabolizes itself in the process.
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01-18-2008, 02:26 PM #8
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Old Man Newbie Clone Problems
Thanks gainesvillegreen for your reply.
Yes, it seems PharmaCan has a pretty good grasp on my problem.
:hippy:
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01-18-2008, 11:53 PM #9
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Old Man Newbie Clone Problems
ooh. my bad, sorry. i was thinking ahead a bit. didnt really consider that too much light is possible.
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01-19-2008, 07:09 AM #10
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Old Man Newbie Clone Problems
Your original post would have been dead-on had the plants been in the vegetative growth stage rather than the rooting phase. As I said, the problem with too much light while you're trying to root cuttings is that they will photosynthesize with as much of it as possible; since they have no (or very little) ability to uptake nutrients, they eat themselves alive.
Originally Posted by hybridlove420
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