Dinosaurs

[dragonrider]

On the entire global warming thing lets get over this, go green save the earth bullshit. If it was really that bad dont you think the slogan would be lets save ourselves, all the carbon monoxide we're breathing in cant be too good.

Remember a world long long ago, when there was no manufacturing powerplants, no cities, no buses, no cars, hell barely even any people. What was here before then? a shit load of trees. GUESS WHAT, there was lightning back then believe it or not. What happens when 4 million acres of trees burn and there is not one fire fighter to put them out. They keep burning and burning, and what do trees put off when they burn? Yep that bad stuff we are all worried about. Now you may argue and say oh bullshit dom, there are so many people with so many cars, so much carbon comes out of them. Think about how many wildfires were burning "out of control" daily back then.

just my .02:thumbsup:

I apologize for playing into the thread going off course, but every time I see a misunderstanding about global warming and CO2, I can't prevent myself from jumping in:

I agree, the slogan should be about saving ourselves. But the danger to ourselves is not that we will somehow be poisoned by the CO2 we add to the air (however, we do poison ourselves with other pollution compounds that come out of burning fossil fuels). The biggest danger to us is the disruption of the water cycles, rainfalll patterns, and other weather that we rely on for our food sources. Most of us are very disconnected from where our food comes from, but if you have ever gardened or farmed anything (outside, not under lights or using hydroponics!), then you understand a bit about how weather factors affect the productivity of plants. Some years you do great and others, the weather kills off your crops, and the difference between a good year and a bad one is not that big. We need to be concerned about what will happen to our food supply if our climate and weather change unpredictably. That is just one problem we need to worry about --- the others have to do with our water supplies, flooding, disease, refugee problems, and possibly war if things get desparate.

So, yes, it is about saving ourselves and our children. I don't worry at all about the planet in general. Life will go on and the planet will endure, no matter what we do to it. I worry about lots of people dying and our society falling apart.

Regarding the trees and the forest fires: Yes, forest fires do contribute CO2 to the atmosphere, as does the normal decomposition of dead plants and animals. In these cases, a new forest or plant takes the place of the decayed or burnt one, and it re-absorbes the CO2 from the atmosphere. Forests grow back after being burned, and they keep the amount of CO2 before and after the fire relatively the same. It is called the CO2 cycle. The difference between a forest fire and burning fossil fuels is that fossil fuels are not part of the normal CO2 cycle. Oil and coal are mined from under ground and when they are burnt, the carbon is put up into the atmosphere. CO2 levels are going up --- that is not in dispute by anyone. And the reason CO2 levels are going up is that plants and the normal CO2 cycle cannot deal with the carbon we are mining from underground and putting up into the air.

Now back to your regularly scheduled program: Dinosaurs!