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01-11-2008, 12:19 AM #1OPSenior Member
the case against ron paul
ron paul is a nut. this is coming from someone with libertarian views on many things. the guy is scary and most people who supporting him are kids on the internet who hear he is against iraq and pro legalizing drugs and think that makes him great.
read this
thisisby.us - The Case Against Ron Paul, by bbstucco
"The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance."
-ron paul
i have been saying this guy is a religous whacko for a long time now but people just can't seem to see it.suhl Reviewed by suhl on . the case against ron paul ron paul is a nut. this is coming from someone with libertarian views on many things. the guy is scary and most people who supporting him are kids on the internet who hear he is against iraq and pro legalizing drugs and think that makes him great. read this thisisby.us - The Case Against Ron Paul, by bbstucco "The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance." Rating: 5
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01-11-2008, 12:27 AM #2Senior Member
the case against ron paul
People support him because he speaks the truth. He talks about issues that no other candidate would even consider thinking about. He may not have a solution for everything, but tell me a candidate who ever has. Any candidate who speaks about persona liberty and small government has my attention.
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01-11-2008, 12:32 AM #3OPSenior Member
the case against ron paul
a candidate who makes sense about everything, dennis kucinich.
there are a shit load of firnge candidates who speak the truth. you have never paid attention to politics until this year if you think otherwise, look at every third party candidate ever, there is a reason they are in the third party because they actually say what they believe in instead of holding back in fear of upsetting the party. ill give paul credit there he says what he means. the problem is david duke also says what he means, and i dont want him elected president. he does however support ron paul, so youre in good company:thumbsup:
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01-11-2008, 06:03 AM #4Senior Member
the case against ron paul
He's a libertarian. I've been saying that all along. He has radical views on the way he thinks this country should be run. I still agree with most of them,not all of them. People here have been focusing on the weed issue. Its a very minor point of things he believes in. My biggest belief in the libertarian platform is that federal government is way overstepping its legal authority and needs to be down sized. I'm all for that.
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01-11-2008, 06:28 AM #5Senior Member
the case against ron paul
I do not support Ron Paul.
The only thing I like about him is his views on personal liberty, which I think is important in this era of the Patriot Act and other attacts on individual Constitutional rights.
But most of his views I think are crazy. I do not like his anti-envionmentalist record. We are approaching a tipping point with regard to Global Climate Change, and he is not remotely prepared to deal with that.
I believe in personal liberty, but I do not extend those rights to corporations the way Ron Paul does. Corporations need to be regulated, and he does not believe in that.
His monetary policies with regard to the Federal Reserve and the gold standard are wrong and will not work.
I believe we need to be engaged in the world, be strong members of the UN, have strong aliances with other countries, and maintain our military presence in the countries where we have commitments. Ron Paul does not agree with that.
I think when people sense a crisis, they tend to turn to an outsider as a "savior," and I think Ron Paul has represented that to some poeple. But the more I learn about him, the less I like.More of the same: Renger\'s Rantings
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01-11-2008, 02:47 PM #6Senior Member
the case against ron paul
I read that article and it hasn't changed any of my ideas.
Ron Paul votes against many things because the constutition does not say that it is something the Federal Government should be involved with. This does not mean he is against or for the particular idea. Rather that it is something the states should handle by themselves, and if not the states then the people and the markets. But not the Fed. Why is that so frightening? I support drilling in ANWAR, the gulf, everywhere there is oil. I support the seperation of church and state not the seperation from church and state. I want out of the UN, and I don't see why we should let some polity supercede our laws.
And Global warming is for sissies. :hippy:\"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny.\" -Thomas Jefferson
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01-14-2008, 02:15 AM #7Senior Member
the case against ron paul
I refuse to listen to an idiot. For one thing he failed to list his sources for the exception of that essay written by Ron Paul dealing with christmas...which I don't particularily agree with 100 percent but he does make a good point on it. Also if he really did have close ties with oil companies he would certainly be doing better in the polls. Throughout the essay he takes many of his sentences out of context such as this one. "Fear is constantly generated by politicians to rally the support of the people. Environmentalists go back and forth, from warning about a coming ice age to arguing the grave dangers of global warming". He's not necessarily anti environment but rather anti fear and he's right. Fear is a huge tool used by authorities to get what they want. That was the main point he was trying to get across not "I'm anti environmentalist". And for that matter who the hell cares if he's an environmentalist. He's for the states to decide that rather than the Federal Governemt to decide it. And as far as trying to repeal the 14th amendment, I'm all for that. I mean if two illegals come into the country and have a kid he or she should also be associated with their parents. The bottom line is there are things which I do not agree with him on but there are many things which happen to be some of the most important issues for me which I totally agree with. This douche bag hasn't proven anything crazy about Ron Paul.
\"Look hard in the mirror. Look at that ghost that stares back at you. Look at that faded spirit that longs to act in this world but cannot because the mind is fearful and holds it back. Placing limits on things, and boundaries everywhere.\" -Rev
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01-14-2008, 02:44 AM #8Senior Member
the case against ron paul
Woo go Ron Paul. :jointsmile:
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01-14-2008, 03:03 AM #9Senior Member
the case against ron paul
in fact, there is no case against dr. paul :s4:
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01-14-2008, 03:50 AM #10Senior Member
the case against ron paul
yep the reason they ban him from debates is because he says alot of things right and they dont like to hear that cause over 90% of all the candidates are bullshitters like our good ol president bush
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