Saggy Leaves

[dejayou30]

One of my plants is starting to look sick. The leaves are looking saggy, leaf stems feel limp and noodley, and some of the lower leaves are starting to yellow around the edges. It looks similar to the way the one I killed last grow by over-nuting looked when it first started to die, but then I was running like 1800 PPM and now I am only at around 850-950 so I don't think it could possibly be over nuting.

My pH is normal 5.6-6.1, temp is 69°, PPM is 850-950 and the roots look healthy. I am feeding 100 mL of PBP Bloom, 50 mL CalMag+, 100 mL LK, 75 mL of Sweet Berry, and 75 mL Hygrozyme. I am running an E&F system and I just flushed for a whole day 5 days ago and then changed my res to 900 PPM the next day.

Its night time in the room right now, but I will get a pic when the lights come on in 2 hours. Until then, any suggestions as to what the problem might be?

dejayou30 Reviewed by dejayou30 on 01-11-2008. Saggy Leaves One of my plants is starting to look sick. The leaves are looking saggy, leaf stems feel limp and noodley, and some of the lower leaves are starting to yellow around the edges. It looks similar to the way the one I killed last grow by over-nuting looked when it first started to die, but then I was running like 1800 PPM and now I am only at around 850-950 so I don't think it could possibly be over nuting. My pH is normal 5.6-6.1, temp is 69°, PPM is 850-950 and the roots look healthy. I Rating: 5

[rhizome]

What was EC prior to maintenance?

[dejayou30]

Around 1100. I think the highest it read one day was 1140. Oh, and I forgot, today is the 27th day of flower.

[rhizome]

What's the media?

[Weedhound]

Hey Deja....
watch your ppms.....are they dropping daily? If so up your nutes. I had that happen in my grows with the CalMag/ProBloom....turned out I was too LOW in nutes and the plants got what i THINK is a copper def....the newer growth wilted. Is it like that? I bet its same damn thing.

I found I got the problem in later flowering if I let my nutes go UNDER 1000. See the buggers were EATING the nutes down and when the number got to low they''d look wilted. (they were eating a couple hundred a day down.

[Weedhound]

Here's what I would do if it were me (hint/hint). If you can change your res...change it then take number to 1000. Check in 24 hours.....I bet the beasts will have the number down. If the problem IS that....they should start to look better immediately but you MUST keep the number up.

If you can't change res....add 100-150 ppm of Pro Bloom.....check number and condiition of plant in 24 hours...(of course you are ALWAYS watching your ph)

[dejayou30]

Here's my pics. This morning, the big fan leaf in front there was yellow just on the edge, but now it looks spotted brownish and all yellow, and the small leaves around the cola have yellowed edges. It definitely looks worse. Still thinking to go ahead and change the res but up the PPM? Should I just change my res every 5 days or something since its only 13 gallons? This weed farming is going to turn into a full time job!

PS: First pic is under HPS, second is under regular light. There is also one other plant that is starting to droop, but not near as bad as this plant.

[rhizome]

Should I just change my res every 5 days or something since its only 13 gallons?

Yep- or got to a larger res.

[dejayou30]

Alright, they just had their first feeding, so I am going to go change it now. Thanks to both of you for the input of experience, and I'll have to look into finding a bigger res! :thumbsup:

[Weedhound]

Make sure to moniter your ppms....you can put the normal number of ppms and see what it is in the am.....if it's lower....go up. And see how the plants seem. Now mine didn't get curly or yellow but they sure did wilt.

Rhizome that's what I ended up doing and how I found out I was low on ppms because the very first thing I did was dilute the ppms down....and the plant(s) got worse. I started doing daily res changes on the plant with the problem, monitered ppms and finally realized I just wasn't keeping up with the plant's demands.