Huckabee and his religious bs

[Barney Trouble]

YouTube - Mike Huckabee responds to evolution question

Does this piss anyone else off?

How can a potential president of the United States think that humans and Dinosaurs coexisted? Its disgusting how someone with that much potential responsibility can be so stupid.

your thoughts?

Barney Trouble Reviewed by Barney Trouble on 01-09-2008. Huckabee and his religious bs YouTube - Mike Huckabee responds to evolution question Does this piss anyone else off? How can a potential president of the United States think that humans and Dinosaurs coexisted? Its disgusting how someone with that much potential responsibility can be so stupid. your thoughts? Rating: 5

[Iwontstop]

I didn't sit and watch the whole clip, but I don't know if saying that there is a creator means that the dinosaurs and humans coexisted. I was raised catholic and I do believe that there is a higher being that created all. but i still assume that it did not happen in the "seven days" that the bible claims. i'm not saying that the bible is wrong but i'm saying the length of time was taken probably too literally. The way i look at creation is the same way most everything in history is designed. it is extremely rare that something is made and design perfectly the very first time. i guess in sense to tie up what i'm saying is that i do believe in creation by God or a god (getting into that subject sould require an entirely different post) but that not everything in todays era coexisted with creatures from hundreds of thousands, and possibly millions of years ago. I do believe in evolution as well, just not to the extent that you first think of when you hear the term.

[dragonrider]

Well, he didn't actually say that dinosaurs and humans coexisted did he? He said he didn't know if the literal truth of the 6-day Bible creation story was true or if it represented a longer period of time, only that he believed that God was behind the process. I do have problems with him based on his overt religious views and how that affects his policies, but I don't think it's fair to mischaracterize his answer. If he had said he does not believe in evolution and he does believe the earth was created in 6 days, then I would say he is too disconnected from reality and objective evidence to exercise sound judgement as president. We don't need someone who ignores proveable facts as president, making decision based on faith, not evidence. But if he holds open the possibility of evolution and just believes God drives the process, I don't have so much of a problem with that. Existence of God cannot be proved or disproved one way or another by science, so I think as long as you do not deny the evidence of science, your faith in God is irrelevant.

Like I said before, I don't really like Huckabee. One thing I would worry about is that maybe his answer was a bit evasive and maybe he actually DOES believe in the creation story more than he said in his answer.

[Barney Trouble]

I didn't sit and watch the whole clip, but I don't know if saying that there is a creator means that the dinosaurs and humans coexisted.

Thats what the creation theory entails. You cant pick and choose whatever you want to believe as far as religious dogma. You either swallow it all up or you don't buy into it at all.

The way i look at creation is the same way most everything in history is designed. it is extremely rare that something is made and design perfectly the very first time.

So i guess your omniscient god isnt all that omniscient?

Well, he didn't actually say that dinosaurs and humans coexisted did he?

It's implied, and again, you cant pick and choose what you want to believe...

If he had said he does not believe in evolution and he does believe the earth was created in 6 days, then I would say he is too disconnected from reality and objective evidence to exercise sound judgement as president.

He DID say that...

Existence of God cannot be proved or disproved one way or another by science, so I think as long as you do not deny the evidence of science, your faith in God is irrelevant.

You cannot disprove that there is a teapot in orbit around the earth, but all logic points to the obvious fact.

[Iwontstop]

Like i said earlier i was raised catholic, but i guess what i left out was that as i grew older i started noticing flaws, which anything that has been filtered through the years by human beings. It works the same with politics, if someone doesn't like a theory or aspect of anything they will either leave it out of what they have to say, or add something to it. since Christianity's birth some 2000 years ago it's impossible to say that it's original beliefs and theories are the same as todays. It's also really hard to say whether a certain being is omniscient or not. Some people just need that idea to make it through there days. There is obviously not one correct answer. People follow religion to have some understanding of life and thats great for them. Others feel better not following any religion and look at science, again if thats what they need to understand life and how it works great. I think everyone's beliefs work for them and more power to them.
I myself have a hard time wrapping my brain around the fact that in the entire universe there is only one planet like ours and there aren't beings similar (or different) than us depending on the needs of that being, especially in the vastness of it all. I think it's just something, as with the evolution and creation theory, that will forever be disputed.

[dragonrider]

Barney Trouble, if you want to get into a discussion about evolution versus creationism or intelligent design, you should check out the other threads on these topics in the Science and Spirituality forums. It's been discussed nearly to death, but you could always pick up one of those threads or start another one. You might learn something about some more nuanced interpretations of the origin of the universe, instead of the all-or-nothing approach.

I do not agree with you that a person either has to believe all the exact literal truth of the creation story of the Bible or none of it at all. That's a false choice. There are very many reasonable people who accept the Bible as allegory and not literal truth. There are many people who believe in the Big Bang and evolution and who accept scientific evidence, but also believe that God exists and is responsible for creation. There are probably more people who believe that than people who believe the exact literal truth of the Bible creation story or people who believe solely in scientific explanations and the absence of God.

Like I said before, I do not like Huckabee or any other politician who wears his religion too much on his sleeve. But you should try to be fair to him. You said it is implied that he believes dinosaurs and man coexisted. You can't attack someone for something YOU said they implied, when they never actually said it. He did NOT say that in this interview, and I don't see how it is even implied. Also, you said he said he does not believe in evolution and that he believes the world was created in 6 days. You need to watch your clip again --- he goes out of his way NOT to say that. He says God was active in the process of creation, but he does not know what that process was or how long it took. When Wolf tries to pin him down, he says he doesn't know whether it was 6 days literally or 6 "days" that represent a longer span of time. I think that answer is evasive, but he doesn't say anything that a lot of reasonsble people would disagree with. There are a lot of people who believe that God created the universe through the Big Bang billions of years ago, and that life evolved exactly as science tells us, and it is all part of Gods creation. Huckabee's statements are vague enough that they could be interprested as consistent with that view.

If anything I would criticise him for being evasive in his answer instead of being unreasonable in his views, at least from what he said here.

[Zimzum]

I don't agree with most religions but Huckabee answered the question perfectly at the start "It's interesting this question would even be asked of someone running for president. I'm not writing the curriculum of an 8th grade science book". I'm sure other candidates feel the same about creationism (Ron Paul is one) as well as many past presidents. I agree Huckabee plays to the religious vote, but this question or his answer have nothing to do with him being president.

[dragonrider]

I don't agree with most religions but Huckabee answered the question perfectly at the start "It's interesting this question would even be asked of someone running for president. I'm not writing the curriculum of an 8th grade science book". I'm sure other candidates feel the same about creationism (Ron Paul is one) as well as many past presidents. I agree Huckabee plays to the religious vote, but this question or his answer have nothing to do with him being president.

Actually, I think it is a relevant question. His religion is not necessarily relevant, but I think it's worthwhile to understand how a person comes about their knowledge of the world. I have no problem with a person believing God created the universe, but if they deny scientific evidence for evolution or they believe the world is only 6000 years old, I do have a problem with that. It shows a pattern of weak thinking and a tendency to ignore overwhelming evidence. I think George Bush has a bit of a problem along those lines. Bush ignores evidence and seems to make decisions based on faith. Sometimes I think Bush thinks he is part of some kind of higher plan and that everything will just work out because he thinks God is on our side and our cause is righteous. That is very dangerous thinking.

[Mississippi Steve]

YouTube - Mike Huckabee responds to evolution question

Does this piss anyone else off?

How can a potential president of the United States think that humans and Dinosaurs coexisted? Its disgusting how someone with that much potential responsibility can be so stupid.

your thoughts?

Can you provide *PROOF* that man and dinosaurs didn't coexist??

[dragonrider]

Can you provide *PROOF* that man and dinosaurs didn't coexist??

Looks like we might have a vote for Huckabee!