Yes I know what you mean...and I won't give up on my cloner but I want to find something consistent that I can return to instead of the 1/20 ratio I'd been having. (I'm running out of clones......) I definitely will expirement more once I get the rr thing down......but with summer coming and the fact that I am going to do an outdoor grow (with my unsexed seeds) I want to have a consistent way to clone that Im comfortable with so I'm ready.

Soil.....sigh......I guess I just feel so....incomplete when it comes to soil growing.....sigh. I'm not giving up my hydro Op.....but I have to say that yes, soil IS moving backwards in a way. But Damnit... I want to grow something in soil. Something that actually LIVES!!