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    #241
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    The "C" Crowd

    What would make roots suffocate....and then get MORE 02 back in them....in the space of 24 hours.....while sitting in the same original bucket.

    and Ps.....each time it does this MORE of the plant looks worse....I'm not really sure I buy transplant shock. The only thing I changed was from 2 gallons of water to six gallons....all else (except LOTS of xtra 02) remains the same.

    The plant felt significantly better yesterday to suck down 200ppms from six gallons of water in six hours That just doesn't sound like a plant in shock to me. It then went rapidly downhill overnight. It sounds much more like the ebb and flow of symptoms of a sick plant trying to recover.

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    #242
    Senior Member

    The "C" Crowd

    Not sure what to show so just took a bunch...I can take more if necessary....

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    #243
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    The "C" Crowd

    One more time......

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    #244
    Senior Member

    The "C" Crowd

    It's suffocating for sure .
    The air , like electricty takes the path of least resistance . Bubbles are not penetrating that huge "SQUARE" block of roots , it's all coming up around the edges = no oxygen to the center of the root ball . It's happened to me w/ 1 plant in both my last 2 grows . Week 10 or so and limbo , plant just quits . Soon the fungus gnats will appear like w/ Deja mentioned in the other thread , maybe later due to your use of hydrozme .

    Im gonna play in the dirt for a while cause im fed up w/ it myself . You still interested in a Intelitrack mover cheap Stinky - Email me ?

    Peace
    Crispi :jointsmile:

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    #245
    Senior Member

    The "C" Crowd

    Hey how did a guy from Nigeria learn all this plant stuff?

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    #246
    Senior Member

    The "C" Crowd

    Nigeria was once covered by lush and fertile rainforests.

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    #247
    Senior Member

    The "C" Crowd

    Before X-C arrived you mean?

    Ok the issue is INDEED lack of root space. We cut the smaller bucket apart (4 slits down sides....crack open leaving bottom intact and it is a MESS of crowded roots, fert, and crud It's like a bottleneck at the bottom and that's where the issue is imo.

    We have flushed it as well as we can......I will show a pic in a few of what we got out in a afew but with four more weeks to go I seriously doubt this plant would be able to finish normally. As it is....I'll give it a day to see if it improves then it's gone. I don't have the slightest desire to put tons on energy into nursing a sick plant with a piss-poor (if ANY) yield at the end.

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    #248
    Senior Member

    The "C" Crowd

    nice maternal instincts:wtf:


    *ducks for cover from the frying pan now swinging for his head*

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    #249
    Senior Member

    The "C" Crowd

    If grow space is precious then I'd consider giving up on a sickly plant. Otherwise I'd do what ever could be done.

    sho

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    #250
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    The "C" Crowd

    Shov, just ignore Rock.....he prefers the looooong grow. I agree with you that space/lighting etc are a BIG issue. I've lost an entire day of lighting due to one sick plant that has a REAL GOOD chance of not finishing. Doesn't really make sense to me to sacrifice the needs of three other healthy plants to nurse this thing along and "see if it makes it" and perhaps finish with an ounce or two.

    I pretty much think the photos speak for themselves. The third photos shows about 2.5 gals of water flushed through the broken bucket and roots. (Ps....the REALLY light brown stuff floating at the top is bits of drilled plastic.)

    We shall see........

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