The "C" Crowd

[Rock.Steady]

oh yeah.

and i took these Maria cuts as a side experiment.
which ironically is working quite well.

in 2 weeks, i have healthy fem cuts rooted.
i could go soil or hydro at this point.

i plan on 1 as a mom.

next evaluation will be in growth rates.

[Weedhound]

Right I understand (I think ) why YOU cloned....and why I am practicing on less than perfect moms but quite seriously most of my clones don't even live a week (took some new ones today.....already wilting) so they wouldn't make it anyway whether taken during veg or not. Unless I can pinpoint the problem and get past them it's getting pretty pointless doing "the same thing over and over and expecting a different result." Unless someone can tell me WHY I'm losing these clones it certainly seems.....well....less than an intelligent thing to be doing to keep snipping off branches and killing them off in a cloner.. I've tried more wet, less wet, etc etc etc and haven't had one make it yet. I really don't have anything else to try and I'm all out of thoughts, ideas, and options. Quite frankly once they START to wilt I pretty much can tell that's the end of it because its very consistent. I can't get them to live but i can get them to croak on a regular, 100% basis. That's all I seem capable of doing....every single time.

[Weedhound]

oh and ps....I've been taking clones from 2-3 days into the 12/12 cycle as well as later flowering so really cannot lay the excuse on "the cycle." That's also pretty frustrating to me. I've tried MANY different things, rrs, cloner, dip n grow, gel, different ages, different strains, blah blah blah. All different.

There are only two constants. They all wilt....then die. And me.

[Rock.Steady]

well, then i dunno.

im using these plugs, powder and regular water.

i didnt bubble mine
.
maybe your just way too high on humidity and water-loggin em?

[Weedhound]

Sorry I'm all crabby Rock.....i'm just bummed. Lost my power plant, my Master Kush AND my Nexus AND 20-25 of the their kids.

I'm just feeling like a murderer these days.....

[MVP]

How many times did Edison fail before he invented the light bulb? Hmmm...

[Weedhound]

Yeah well HES DEAD so just how crabby do you think HE is!!!! Lol.....

thanks MVP.

[MVP]

I have experienced some clones that wilt and completely yellow but survive and do fine all within 3 weeks of cut date. If I can come up with any new advice for you I'll let you know.

[Weedhound]

I BELIEVE I have pinpointed the issue (for now..) Thanks for the heating tip Stealth. You know these damn things are VERY hard to read. I'm used to seeing a problem on a plant and by seeing it and studying conditions figuring out the underlying issue. These little bastards don't do that.

Too wet....wilt
too dry......wilt
too cold....wilt
too hot..... well, you get the picture..:wtf:

I'm starting to see why this is all so much trial and error.....

[Weedhound]

How much light should these buggers be on right now? I can do anything from 26wcfl to 6 26w cfls.......how much light is too much?

I just discovered that they AREN'T wilting.....(this time :wtf they're leaning towards the light. i thought it was wilting....so I kept moving them futher, then they leaned more.....

It's like unlocking a safe combo....jeez....