The "C" Crowd

[Weedhound]

My clones have been doing great since I put them in the little RR's but the last day or two one is starting to wilt even though all conditions are the same EXCEPT....the temp has dropped down to 66F in our house due to some recent weather changes (it's normally 70). Could this have caused it? The rr is damp......like it would be in the bag....is this wet enough? Should I spray some more Anti-Stress on it or ? Been misting dome regularly and the munchkin was doing great up until yesterday. The other one (a little smaller) looks fine.

Any thoughts, suggestions, stunning epiphanies??? (I could REALLY use a stunning epiphany if you have one to spare....)

[Shovelhandle]

no epiphany here, but I may have an old harmonica under the bed... :hippy:

Shv

[SnSstealth]

i would say DEFINITELY the temp...IMO, i may be wrong...lol, lets see what the ganja godess says....lol
:smokebong:
whiskeytango

[Weedhound]

Have you found cooler temps to wilt your clones Stealth? Should I put them on a heating pad do you think?

[SnSstealth]

i keep mine around 78...use a heat pad too.........
WT

[Rock.Steady]

Oh shit, I'm outta here. I'll be partying in the loo with my ballast if ya need me.

now THAT sounds like a party:wtf:

[Weedhound]

Hey Rock I called my hydro several times today but nobody answered the phone.....not sure what went on there.

No new info....sorry....they're closed on Sun.

[Rock.Steady]

hey Hound, no worries.

i think i might like these plugs.
look at the Maria clones.
cuts taken 14 days ago.
scarified, then powder root hormone (schultz)
gave em about 5-7 days in a sealed plastic container.
then had just sitting ontop the soil in the ASH pot.
i just made sure they were 'only' moist.
i even let em get a lil dry b4 i wet em again.
i used ur ph'd water advice for the hydro's on these cuts.

24/7, 26/100w daylite cfls about 6 inches away, until today.
now into the veg cab.
beyond the root development you can see here,, i can also see a couple lil roots are already weaving into and thru the stuff.

now listen....
important reason i am showing u these and explaining all that.

your wilting concerns...
see how these are kinda wilty and losin color?
these 2 cuts of Maria were vibrant and green til just yesterday/today.
i remember a similar thing happened when i cloned Betty.

if i had to hypothesize, i would say its part of the energy transfer. now that they have some root to work with, theyll start eating the nutes stored in the leaf. the new roots will be able to bring in nutes, and new leaf should sprout. i think these are growing leaf, how do yours look? is there any new center sprout growth?
i think its just a refocus of the plants energies and development.
i may give them a lil spray with water, but will just continue as normal.

also, you took most of yours in flower if i recall.
ok, i can show u the disasterous visual condition of the Galina clone. it was taken in week 6, and has struggled constantly and really doesnt look great. im even considering tossing it, but not yet.
remember, all these guys keep sayin cloning in flower i possible but difficult. i have to agree completely. i think i timed the Maria cuts just right. as soon as she showed sex, snip 2 low and out. For beans of unknown sex, this may be the best tactic for me. now i can grow 1 into a mom. the other i am going to let grow normal so i can see a comparison in growth between the mom and a direct clone. i'm pretty happy to have these results in just 2 weeks, with what i experienced this past year.




un-related-
i'll prolly put these in soil too.
im considering experimenting with smaller pots, maybe 2 gal instead of 3. my root systems have not yet been overwehelmingly crowded, and maybe i can get away with smaller pots, which would help my space issues.

i got a lil wordy, didnt try to hyjak, been token Galina samples, pretty impressive.mostly cloudy, waitin for ambers b4 i chop:jointsmile:

i think most of these ramblings are related to your clone questions

[Weedhound]

Actually Rock I'm really glad you brought this up because it identifies something that I consider rather important and X-Crispi has mentioned to me that he has run into the same problem trying to clone as well. The issue is this: Why would I clone something that takes 2-3 weeks to even get going.....then nurse an obviously stressed out and sickly plant back to health when I can plant a seed and have a nice plant in 2 weeks without all the bs? It just doesn't make any sense to do unless you get some positives out of it and a sickly,wilted, yellowing stick just doesn't make it as something I'm going to invest a lot of time and energy to end up with. It's simply not how I want to grow.

I don't see Stinky's or MVP's clones looking completely like shit by the time they are rooted so there must be a reason for that. I just can't find out what it is. Otherwise.....unless its your ONLY chance to keep something like a strain going or want a whole bunch of little plants exactly the same (to sell or grow or WHATEVER) I just don't see it being worthwhile to end up a month later with a three leafed yellow stem. There HAS to be better way. :wtf:

[Rock.Steady]

ok, i think a big part of your current frustration is linked to your flowering moms.

first your question.
why bother with trouble.
for me-
the reason i 1st took it was
#1 i knew it would be female.
#2 panic because i had so many males. you remember.
and my last reason for letting it stay (for now) , well, weird as it may sound, i feel i 'owe' the plant a chance, with all i put it thru. in week 6 of flower, which is known as difficult. so, if it can pull out without special attrention, ill let it run.
i have been thinkin not, lately, cause im outta room, and i feel 1 of the new russian clones would be a better use of resource.
i didnt realize, i would suddenly be in the situation i am in.

its a karmic quandry.

but, thats the way i feel about it.

so back to you.

u really need to take clones from a veggin mom before u can judge the whole process.