Iowa Caucus!

[dragonrider]

Barak Obama is going to be the next president of the United States!

Of course it's way to early to tell, so I'm just joking, but the Iowa caucus does give some clue as to how the national election will go.

First Democrats had twice as many supporters attend the caucuses than Republicans did in a state that is about 50-50, so Democrats are more motivated and energized.

I think Obama will quickly solidify support by the Democrats. Hillary was getting a lot of support becasue she seemed "inevitable" and "electable," but now she lost, so she doesn't seem so "inevitable" and "electable" now. Edwards's message is about change like Obama's is, but it has a divisive edge to it that isn't going to work when compared to Obama's message of bringing the country together.

The Republicans are in chaos. Huckabee won in Iowa, but that doesn't help him as much as it hurts other candidates. It weakened Romney to come in second, thank God. Giuliani didn't give Iowa any effort at all, but it still looks horrible to be so far at the bottom. McCain was beat by that joke, Thompson. My feeling is that Huckabee won't last because his support does not extend much past the evengelicals. Thompson can't last because he's basically just a lazy actor. McCain will pick up some steam in New Hampshire, but eventually he will run into the Giuliani firewall in New York, New Jersey, Florida and California. That will weaken McCain, and boost Giuliani, but by that point it may be too late for Giuliani.

Anyway, I think it's going to be a long time before we know who the Republican nominee is going to be, and by the time we do, they will all be damaged by the fight. In the meantime, Obama is going to quickly emerge as the clear front runner for the Dems and is going to have an easy time of building support throughout the primaries and momentum for the general election.

Of course, this theory could all be thrown out the window next week, and the election is nearly a year away, an eternity in politics.

[Psycho4Bud]

Barak Obama is going to be the next president of the United States!

I hope your wrong for his sake.......even getting the nomination. I was talking to the rents the other day about this and kind of agreed (which was STRANGE considering it was political) that if he did get the nomination there would probably be an attempt on his life.

We've come along way in the states regarding racial issues but there are still those with ugly attitudes. A young, intelligent individual like that deserves respect BUT........

I'm no big fan of his, don't agree at all about the instant withdrawl not to mention his attitude regarding talks with Iran, Syria, etc....but I sure the hell don't wish harm on him. Just a bad feeling I guess.

Have a good one!:s4:

[dragonrider]

I hope your wrong for his sake.......even getting the nomination. I was talking to the rents the other day about this and kind of agreed (which was STRANGE considering it was political) that if he did get the nomination there would probably be an attempt on his life.

We've come along way in the states regarding racial issues but there are still those with ugly attitudes. A young, intelligent individual like that deserves respect BUT........

I'm no big fan of his, don't agree at all about the instant withdrawl not to mention his attitude regarding talks with Iran, Syria, etc....but I sure the hell don't wish harm on him. Just a bad feeling I guess.

Have a good one!:s4:

I was just trying to say what I see happening, not necessarily what I WANT happening. I don't agree with him on Iraq either (don't really agree with any of the Dems). And there are a few other issues I disagree with him about too. But of the top three Dems, I think I like him best.

You may be right about someone taking a shot at him. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw him giving his victory speach --- a lot of MLK and JFK there, and then you have to think of what happened to them. But realisticly, all candidates have to worry about that, regardless of race or party or policy.

[mfqr]

I am going to be really pissed if Huckabee becomes president. Religious zealots should not hold office. Plus, the Evangelical motive is to get rid of separation of the church and state. Look it up .

I bet I'm going to be writing Ron Paul's name in myself when it comes to voting. Oh well.

[dragonrider]

I am going to be really pissed if Huckabee becomes president. Religious zealots should not hold office. Plus, the Evangelical motive is to get rid of separation of the church and state. Look it up .

I bet I'm going to be writing Ron Paul's name in myself when it comes to voting. Oh well.

You do not have to worry about Huckabee --- he won't last.

[medicinal]

I wonder if some KKK asshole would try and assasinate him? I'm more inclined to think R.P. would be a larger target as he is targeting the fed and foriegn policy, ending the drug war, (do you realize how many people are employed in the war on drugs) and abolishing the IRS, also a huge employer., Tax preparers etc.

[Fencewalker]

Iowa went fine guys...etc.

Hmm...If you are the original poster of this, then I apologize. Otherwise, you should give credit where credit is due.
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but the Iowa caucus does give some clue as to how the national election will go.

Twice in our history the winner of Iowa became the President. I don't think Iowa has a clue.

[dragonrider]

Twice in our history the winner of Iowa became the President. I don't think Iowa has a clue.

I mostly meant that there were some lessons to learn from the results in Iowa, not that Iowans have any special knowledge. It is kind of funny that 300,000 Iowans can cause such a ruckus in a country of over 300,000,000 people. We probably give them too much importance. But when the results are a surprise, there are usually lessons to be learned.

[xlz916]

First Democrats had twice as many supporters attend the caucuses than Republicans did in a state that is about 50-50, so Democrats are more motivated and energized.

Awesome observation -- and very encouraging.

I was (and still am) an Edwards guy, but I have to be realistic about his chances. Obama is a strong candidate IMO -- not as good on health insurance as I would like, but I think he can do quite a few good things for this country culturally.

EDIT -- Dragonrider: I'm curious why you think Huckabee will fade. I think he might have a shot at the nomination (though he would lose to a potted plant in the general election).

[McLeodGanja]

Well done to Obama. I don't know what I think is best for America, I think in any case they ought to become less oligarchic. Whatever happens I hope the next era in politics spells and end to the bullshit we have sustained from Bush, not only us in Europe, but also the poor bastards in the middle east who have had their lives shat on by this murdering bastard. You know, I still can't get my head round 911. I am not 100% convinced that the whole thing wasn't staged, at the very least I think it probably happened because that monkey faced coward bastard stole the presidency. May whoever wins the next seat bring an end to this sad period in the history of the world.