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    #11
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    Why does God need your praise/belief?

    Quote Originally Posted by yokinazu
    like i said if god existed from the begining of creation then why did he take so long to reveal himself?
    Well if you truly believe in the 3 Abrahamic religions (Islam, Judaism, Christianity), then god did reveal himself right from the begining in the story of adam and eve. They knew god existed and god made them perfect, without sin. At least I think he did.

    The world then was a paradise, it was the garden of eden. Most people probably know the story, God's only rule was to stay away from the tree of knowledge (kind if ironic, huh). They were tempted and ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge and "their eyes were opened" and they realized they were naked and had sin and god banished them from paradise...I guess because he is not as forgiving as he likes people to think.

    That is why all humans have sin, according to those religious texts (even the Koran). So basically humanity has to submit and praise god because of their sins because some naked people got convinced that knowledge was better than paradise by a snake.

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    #12
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    Why does God need your praise/belief?

    Quote Originally Posted by 40oz
    ....humanity has to submit and praise god because of their sins because some naked people got convinced that knowledge was better than paradise by a snake.
    so; according to accepted religious dogma, the quest for an understanding of the world around us is the ultimate sin. is it any wonder those of us with more than two brain cells to rub together have declared war on these institutions of slavery? religion, from its very inception, was never anything more than a sorry attempt to explain that which we are unable to understand. our origins, the workings of the cosmos, the reasons for our existence; these are the big questions that religion has always given us little answers for. every step we have taken toward any understanding of these "unanswerables" has always been thwarted by religion and as these belief systems have evolved they have gained power over the ignorant masses and a death grip on the intellectual growth of our species.

    the primitive ritual of genuflection has become the most important part of religious exercise. it is an admission that we are incapable of understanding our own natures and an act of submitting ourselves to bondage under some mythical master. it is also a secret handshake of sorts, with each creed creating some special form of prostrating themselves before their illusory creator as a way of setting themselves apart from those with different beliefs. remember; these gods are cruel, as nature is sometimes seen to be cruel, and they must be placated in order to assure their benevolence.

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    #13
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    Why does God need your praise/belief?

    some naked people got convinced that knowledge was better than paradise by a snake.
    so ignorance is bliss

    if you cant tell i dont beleive in the 3 abrahamic religions. according to them the earth and humans have been here just about 6000 years. i just dont buy into it. but that is an argument for a differant thread.

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    #14
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    Why does God need your praise/belief?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bongoman
    Even if he exists, why would he need your praise, or your belief for that matter? IS he so narcissistic that he enjoys it? Maybe, but somehow I doubt the supreme creator of the ultimate multiverse has any self esteem issues. Also, why does he not let unbelievers into heaven? Surely it can't make that much difference to him? Anyway, I'm not trying to attack, I am genuinely curious as to what the reason is.
    God doesn't need anything; if anything WE need God, or at least a realization of who He really is. An intellectual understanding, or belief in God is not nescessary to enter heaven, but it is helpful. Heaven is within you, all one must do is "realize" this truth. So many people wait, and do nothing worthy on this earth because they think that heaven is somewhere "out there".

    It is here, on earth, and within each of us. The trouble with this truth is that VERY few realize it, and focus only of suffering. There is purpose in suffering; it builds character, and is indeed beneficial for us, but it is not the essence of life.

    Love is the stuff life is made of - w/o Love there is no life in us. Christ is Love - Love is Spirit - Spirit is God.

    God consists of more than spirit, but Spirit is God's essence. God is all things. [Mind - Spirit - Matter] We are all part of God, and we will always be part of God. Even after our bodies decay, we still reside in God as dirt - ash -nutrients for palnts, animals, etc. Life is eternal - Death is an illusion.

    Tabuwn

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    Why does God need your praise/belief?


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