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    #31
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    Benazir Bhutto killed in Pakistan

    bhutto was the ONLY democratic leader in pakistan. i don't say this now because she's dead but i've always looked up to her as the only one who could take pakistan out of this mess. i've seen the country deteriorate in the past 9 years. the divide between the rich and the poor has increased. all throughout the government offices and bureaucracy there are retired military officers. the construction contracts are all given to someone related to the military or the military's internal construction company, which i believe is called FWO. there are "invisible" schools, roads, sewerage system etc which only exist in paper. the money supplied for that is all divided amongst the 'contractors' into their pockets and the actual infrastructure never really came into existance.

    and now mush has the fucking audacity to say that he's 'restored" democracy in our country. he says he's "restored" it in three phases and his first phase was the coup d'etat and the martial law that took place in october 1999. i mean has someone gotta correct his meaning for what 'democracy' really is? a military coup d'etat is his first phase for "restoring democracy". the second phase was when he promised that he would resign from his office of chief of army staff and be a civilian president after a referendum which took place in 2002. after securing his place again, as the "Presdient", he turned his back toward the people of pakistan and stayed in his uniform until oct 2007. in november 2007 he declared a state of emergency, which he call his third phase of restoring democracy.

    back in march 2007, he tried to oust the chief justice of pakistan.. which he temporarily did but because of riots and public reaction he failed to have his choice. he did so because he was scared that the judiciary wouldn interfere in his eligibility to run as president again. according to the constitution, it is allowed to run for president only if you haven't worked in the government for the past two years. he broke the constitutional law because he was running two offices. anyway, so then... in november 2007, he declared an emergency throughout the country and whoever dared to speak up against him in any normal way would end up in prison (a lot of my friends and peers did) and he successfully ousted the chief justice and the entire judiciary. he brought his own puppet judiciary in order to support mush in whatever the fuck he does. this was his third phase of 'democracy'.

    ms. bhutto, before coming to pakistan wrote a letter to mush that if she would be attacked then such and such people should be held responsible. she just ddin't play a fluke, she knew her shit. so on oct 18, when she was unsuccessful in being assassinated, the government automatically blamed baitullah mehsud.. some dude in the taliban.. anyway.. he didn't claim to have been behind the attack.

    ms. bhutto knew herself who it was.. we all know who it is and even mush knows who did.. but again, there was no formal inquiry to this attack.

    dec 27, bhutto was attacked and assassinated. in not more than a day, the government claimed and """proved""" that it was yet again baitullah mehsud by playing of recording of telephone conversation the pakistani intelligence had tapped. in it.. it is not mentioned a single time about the killing of ms. bhutto specifically. they also mentioned their whereabouts and their next rendezvous.

    questions arise.. if the intelligence was 'intelligent' enough to tap their telephones why couldn't they catch them despite having mentioned about their whereabouts and rendezvous. majority of pakistan claims that this 'conversation' has been, in fact fabricated.

    baitullah mehsud denied any claims that he was behind the attacks. this is very important to realise because taliban and al qaeda brag about their attacks and air a video claiming their assassinations, attack etc. mehsud also mentioned that he would never kill bhutto anyway because there was no prior enmity amongst the two.

    musharraf was intimidated by ms. bhutto anyway. he feared impeachment which the country and he himself expected. now, i guarantee you, that they'll rig the elections and bring a prime minister from the same party as which musharraf belongs to, PML-Q.

    together they'll suck, swallow and usurp the money that pakistan generates and the international aid they get for supporting war on terror.. it's all bull crap. i say it again, it's all bull crap. mush is THE enemy of the state.

    the world doesn't need to worry about pakistan falling in the hands of 'talebanisque' government. it won't. the government is just simply procrastinating about catching and putting the extremists on trial. this way, their funds will be consistent and gather into a huge amount. mush is a good businessman.

    pakistan was once a nation, now it's hardly a country. it's on the brink of civil war and ethnic, political, social and class divide. it aches to see my country getting into this state.

    think for a bit.

    check out Dictatorship Watch :: Putting Pakistani Dictatorship in Global & Regional Context

    (sorry for any mistakes in grammar or spelling, i wrote this in a rush because my thoughts were flowing faster than my typing... i didn't proof read it anyway.)

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    #32
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    Benazir Bhutto killed in Pakistan

    why is 'musharraf' written in red?! i didn't do that.

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    #33
    Senior Member

    Benazir Bhutto killed in Pakistan

    Regardless of what you think of Bhutto, having a major political candidate assassinated on the eve of an election is a disaster for any country. Pakistan is growing more unstabble.

    Regarding Bhutto's past support for the Taliban: Out of political expedience or short term objectives, a lot of countries, governments, and administrations have supported different groups at different times that they later regretted. The US armed factions in Afghanistan in order to oppose the Russians, and now those same groups are our worst enemies. We may someday regret our support for Musharraf, even though for the short term we have needed him. My understanding is that Pakistan's support for the Taliban was part of a "Deep Defense" strategy for a possible war with India. The idea was to have a sort of friendly puppet government in Afghanistan, so if Pakistan were ever attacked by India, there would be a miltary fallback position, and they could continue the fight from there. But support for that radical regime has furthered the cause of radicals in Pakistan itself and now may be the seeds of destruction for Pakistan.



    Quote Originally Posted by thekhoso
    why is 'musharraf' written in red?! i didn't do that.
    It is not showing up red for me. Did you do some kind of page search that might highlight the word 'Musharraf'?
    More of the same: Renger\'s Rantings

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    #34
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    Benazir Bhutto killed in Pakistan

    I always believed that bhutto knew her shit.. for sure.. Musharraf didn't kill her thats for sure too (though he might be happy because of the loss of a 'political' opponent keeping the PML-Q in mind.) It was probably her husband and some other inside people... I don't get what the terrorist threat in Pakistan is about?? I mean, religious fanatics might show up every now and then but there is no threat of losing the nukes to the terrorist animals. I'm just sad that people think Pakistan is a terrorist refuge territory and I haven't seen one terrorist to date.. Never the less, Pakistan is a fucked up country, with a fucked up social structure...and good weed. Im just glad I live amongst the 'niche gap'

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    #35
    Senior Member

    Benazir Bhutto killed in Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by blownn
    hmm so bhuutto was a country leader?? O.O

    i drew a picture of her at my art school. all eyes from the TIME magazine no grid no tracing. ill post a picture here if im allowed too.
    She had been the Pakistani prime minister in past years late 80s to 90 and then in the mid 90s and hoped to become one again by democratic election. So she was between terms but was running.

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