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12-24-2007, 03:41 PM #1OPJunior Member
destroying your crop in an emergency
what if you could?
would they be able to charge you with anything?
if so, what?
i'm imagining a way to do it with fire.
basically, the grow would have to be on an upper level, in an emergency, the plants/pots would drop through a trap door sys. that would be spring loaded to reclose , into a lower level that is a furnace - nothing complicated, just a welded chamber to contain the fire- a giant bbq.
as they hit the chamber, an auto. ignighter would fire up and ignite a plastic gallon jug of gasoline.
it would be made of heavy GA steel so the pigs could not open it untill the fire is long out.
just havin a bbq guys, wtf?
no evidence- no crime.
you might say thats alot to go through, but would you still think that when your in prison getting ass raped?river rat Reviewed by river rat on . destroying your crop in an emergency what if you could? would they be able to charge you with anything? if so, what? i'm imagining a way to do it with fire. basically, the grow would have to be on an upper level, in an emergency, the plants/pots would drop through a trap door sys. that would be spring loaded to reclose , into a lower level that is a furnace - nothing complicated, just a welded chamber to contain the fire- a giant bbq. Rating: 5
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12-24-2007, 04:31 PM #2Member
destroying your crop in an emergency
Depends how many and how big they are, and how much time, fire will leave evidence, plenty to convict you unless its astoundingly hot (if they have a warrent and you have been served it, you will be charged with destroying evidence- at least IIRC in the UK)
garbage disposals can work, but hemp fibre will screw them up.
Best way, is Dont tell anyone , cover the smell and light, and dont deal, but most importantly Dont tell anyone
If you cant do the time, dont grow
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12-24-2007, 04:59 PM #3Senior Member
destroying your crop in an emergency
I think fire on organic material would be good at destroying the evidence. But If they are charging in an find the grow equip, they would probably hit you with a conspiracy charge.
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12-24-2007, 07:32 PM #4Senior Member
destroying your crop in an emergency
It would definitely be worth it if you could rig something up. It could be the diference between a misdemeanor amount and a felony amount. How they going to weigh it if its all burned up?
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12-24-2007, 07:32 PM #5OPJunior Member
destroying your crop in an emergency
i dont agree with the statement, if you cant do the time dont do the crime.
first of all it isnt a crime, its the law that is wrong.
second, this is a war, and i would not just sit there and do nothing to keep my ass out of jail.
we have to fight back in unconventional ways to beat them at their own game.
but as far as them seeing the grow equipment, if there is even one little tomato plant left under the lights, thats plausible denial.
gasoline burns at around 1500 degrees, that would take care of all the evidence.
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12-25-2007, 01:46 AM #6Senior Member
destroying your crop in an emergency
Petrol burns not to bad but if you want to get rid of evidence use diesel & firelighters.
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12-25-2007, 02:11 AM #7Member
destroying your crop in an emergency
Originally Posted by river rat
It might not be morally or ethically wrong to grow it- but if it is against the law, then growing it is a crime. nothing you can say will change this fact, until it is made legal.
you may not agree with "Dont do the crime if you cant do the time" , but let me tell you this, the judge will not be any less harsh on your ass if you tell him you dont agree .
As for your theory- ignoring that even at 1500c, a fire can still leave evidence, exactly how do you explain the spring loaded trapdoor, or why you are burning plant matter just as the police search your house (which means they have good enough evidence that you may be growing to secure a warrent)? this is completely ignoring all sorts of laws (depending on where you are in the world) about destruction of evidence(again, they have a warrent, so they have a strong case to suspect you, and you have this spring loaded system, and grow lights, and were burning plants as they search, cmon, really?).
Your one and only defense in this war, is stealth- they wont search a house they dont suspect.
This is real life, you need to get your head out of the clouds, before you ruin your life by making foolish mistakes.
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12-25-2007, 01:03 PM #8Senior Member
destroying your crop in an emergency
Originally Posted by river rat
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12-26-2007, 01:33 PM #9Senior Member
destroying your crop in an emergency
The concept is flawed at its root.
Why go through the expense of building a complicated self- destruct when keeping your mouth shut is FREE?
A gallon jug of gasoline ignites in a confined space. That, my dear, is a bomb. Be happy if you get caught for growing and the ATF doesn't have to be involved because you didn't build an incendiary device in your basement.
The steel chamber full of burning gas and plant parts, assuming that it was strong enough to contain the blast (which it won't be by the way), will be hot enough on the outside to ignite nearby combustibles. So either you get an explosion or a fire. I guess the answer to your original question is, do you want to get probation for personal use cultivation, or go to federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison for arson, at the very least, assuming you DIDN'T take half the neighborhood with you.
Since this thread falls under 'other crimes' talk, it is CLOSED. We are growers, not irresponsible fools.
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