Stages of Marijuana Smoking

[fireworks]

very stimulating discussion. i've been asking all those questions to myself lately. that smoke session haze and wanting to be high all the time and change is crazy. i also wish we could know definitively if pot causes brain damage.

[4twentE]

More personal observations:

Positives of Marijuana Abuse:
Get high
Social involvement
Negatives of Marijuana Abuse:
Weight gain (munchies)
Apathy (loss of emotions/feelings/motivation)
Worse physical appearance (droopy eyes, not just while stoned)
Memory loss
Greatly weakened social ability
No sex drive
Increased estrogen (less muscle mass potential)
Learning difficulty
Loss of confidence
Completely different personality
No R.E.M. sleep or dreams
Withdrawal Symptoms:
Sleep disturbance
Wrestlessness
Irritability
Complete appetite loss
Loss in confidence
Mild depression

The weight gain is your problem, nothing to do with the weed.
Cannabis doesnt rob you of your emotions and motivation. Your just lazy.
I dont get droopy eyes unless im stoned - i REALLY fail to see how cannabis can change the way you look when sober.
How did cannabis weaken your social ability? Cannabis didnt, you did.
Cannabis DOES NOT lower sex drive.
Learning difficulty? Thats nothing to do with cannabis, maybe your just not the bright spark you thought you were.
How did smoking cannabis make you less confident? It's YOU, not the weed.
I dont see how cannabis can completely change you, it gets you stoned, and thats it. I dont see how/why it'd change your personality. [for the worse]
And cannabis doesnt stop you dreaming, you dream everynight - you just cant always remember them.


Moving onto withdrawl symptoms:


Complete appetite loss - so your not eating ANYTHING? You havnt lost your appetite - your eating the amounts a normal person would. You just think you've lost your appetite because your not eating tons and tons of food when you have the munchies.

I've been smoking pot for half my life now, almost as long as lots of you guys have been alive. These should not in any way be considered the definitive stages of pot smoking. I find both of you to be about half right and half wrong according to my personal experiences and non-biased research.

1. First off, I can't believe you could only find two positives about smoking weed. Why the hell did you keep smoking? One of them is social involvement. Then you go to say in the negatives that it weakens social involvement. Make up your mind. I personally find it increases your social involvement as you have something to do with people. You're rarely excluded from non pot smoking crowds because you may smoke on your own time.

2. Weight gain. It's a positive aspect for cancer and leukemia (or whathaveyou) patients. Weight gain shouldn't be a problem unless you're already on the verge of being fat. It can be counteracted if you just get off your ass and do something physical. And you can eat nutitious munchies if you're that worried about weight gain.

3. Loss of motivation. OK, yeah, I can see that. It's called amotivational syndrome. I personally experience this all the time and do believe it could be pot related. As for loss of emotions, BS.

4. Worse physical appearance. More BS. Might come with amotivational syndrome, but if you're too sorry to groom and dress in the morning, you're probably an ugly f__ker anyway. You've got problems besides pot.

5. Memory loss. Definitely. Still got long term though. And can be counteracted by keeping your head busy. Read, write, do something. If you don't your brain rots away without pot.

6. Sex drive stays the same with or without pot. Sometimes I'm too stoned to wanna have sex, but when I sober up, it's on.

7. Never heard the increased estrogen thing so I will neither confirm nor deny it.

8. Learning difficulty. Comes with short term memory loss. But I still have no problem learning anything I halfway want to learn. Just pay attention in class.

9. Loss of confidence in what? I'm still confident I can do anything I could do before i started smoking whether I'm high or sober.

10. Personality. It changes with time anyway. Probably attributed to your crowd more than the drugs they do. Influence of peers, not drugs.

11. I sleep way better stoned. I'm sure i dream, jus don't remember them. The average person has 5 dreams a night but doesn't remember one no mater what chemicals they put in their body.

12. Wrestlessness. Learn to spell.

So yeah, that's my two cents.

[FindingTim]

I've been smoking pot for half my life now, almost as long as lots of you guys have been alive. These should not in any way be considered the definitive stages of pot smoking. I find both of you to be about half right and half wrong according to my personal experiences and non-biased research.

1. First off, I can't believe you could only find two positives about smoking weed. Why the hell did you keep smoking? One of them is social involvement. Then you go to say in the negatives that it weakens social involvement. Make up your mind. I personally find it increases your social involvement as you have something to do with people. You're rarely excluded from non pot smoking crowds because you may smoke on your own time.

2. Weight gain. It's a positive aspect for cancer and leukemia (or whathaveyou) patients. Weight gain shouldn't be a problem unless you're already on the verge of being fat. It can be counteracted if you just get off your ass and do something physical. And you can eat nutitious munchies if you're that worried about weight gain.

3. Loss of motivation. OK, yeah, I can see that. It's called amotivational syndrome. I personally experience this all the time and do believe it could be pot related. As for loss of emotions, BS.

4. Worse physical appearance. More BS. Might come with amotivational syndrome, but if you're too sorry to groom and dress in the morning, you're probably an ugly f__ker anyway. You've got problems besides pot.

5. Memory loss. Definitely. Still got long term though. And can be counteracted by keeping your head busy. Read, write, do something. If you don't your brain rots away without pot.

6. Sex drive stays the same with or without pot. Sometimes I'm too stoned to wanna have sex, but when I sober up, it's on.

7. Never heard the increased estrogen thing so I will neither confirm nor deny it.

8. Learning difficulty. Comes with short term memory loss. But I still have no problem learning anything I halfway want to learn. Just pay attention in class.

9. Loss of confidence in what? I'm still confident I can do anything I could do before i started smoking whether I'm high or sober.

10. Personality. It changes with time anyway. Probably attributed to your crowd more than the drugs they do. Influence of peers, not drugs.

11. I sleep way better stoned. I'm sure i dream, jus don't remember them. The average person has 5 dreams a night but doesn't remember one no mater what chemicals they put in their body.

12. Wrestlessness. Learn to spell.

So yeah, that's my two cents.

You present a good point about me listing only 2 positives about smoking. You see, "get high" is very broad. "Get high" includes everything from enhanced creative thought to food taste enhancement. I didn't feel the need to list every positive aspect of being stoned, so that is why I merely said "get high." Can you guys think of any other positives about smoking aside from the obvious?

[birdgirl73]

Mine were all the obvious (and mostly medical) ones: enhanced appetite, suppressed nausea, improvement in mood/relief of depression, relaxation. The non-medical effect that I found most unique in myself was enhanced the creativity/inventiveness, but you already covered that.

[beachguy in thongs]

Positive:
It moderates all my crazy brain cells.

[yhelothar]

I think the problem is when you base your activities around smoking weed. I think it should only be secondary to whatever whether it be socializing with friends or whooping your friend's ass in a video game. You shouldn't smoke just to smoke and do nothing. That is addiction.

Marijuana IS addictive if you have an addictive personality. You could have been addicted to alcohol or sleep aids. You could be addicted to anything else too.

Weed shouldn't be your life, it should be a insignificant part of it or a hobby. Growing weed should be considered the same as a gardening hobby, without much to do with weed.

Good for you Tim. It isn't for everyone and you got yourself away from something that was negatively affecting your life. It probably isn't the same for most people, but you are your own person. Life is too short and too big to spend in your basement smoking when there is a whole world out there.

Too much of anything is bad for you, even if it isn't physically bad for you. Think about that for awhile.

[Nuglove]

sounds like its straight out of the dea's teen section of their website...

[yhelothar]

No, DEA's teens would be like this: "I smoked pot once and almost everyone died. Everyone that survived rejected Jesus and then became a communist and a threat to the United States."

Oh and i forgot in my last post. I've been smoking weed everyday for about a month now and the only thing it has affected is my will to work out. I used to lift weights everyday and now I'm like "i'll smoke and then go work out when I'm sober." Which never works because I'm like screw it, i'll go tomorrow lol. I'm going to be quitting after New Years before class starts up again. I'm going to be doing 17 hours of classes and it is going to be an insane amount of work, I don't need any distractions.

Other than that, I haven't had any negative effects but definitely seen people that are complete fucking losers because they smoke everyday. Don't be one of those people, because you are going to ruin the cause and become another one of DEA's statistics.

[chisme]

well cmon man , anything too much will kill you,

coffee, beer,cough syrup,water even

[4twentE]

You present a good point about me listing only 2 positives about smoking. You see, "get high" is very broad. "Get high" includes everything from enhanced creative thought to food taste enhancement. I didn't feel the need to list every positive aspect of being stoned, so that is why I merely said "get high." Can you guys think of any other positives about smoking aside from the obvious?

yeah. just that only listing two makes your post seem very biased. i'll start with your two positives:

enhanced creativity, better food taste, relaxation, euphoria, drive slower, drink less, eat more, more medical uses than i can name, better sleep, social enhancement, cultural exposure, cures boredom, cooking, more patience, stress relief, makes movies, games and other activities more fun...i could name more if i really wanted to think about it. not everybody experiences things the same way but these are a few ways pot has enhanced my life.